Playful Cold Open And Banter

SPEAKER_00 0:00

Damn you.

SPEAKER_04 0:01

Well, that wasn't very nice. Good evening. Welcome to another episode of a contagious smile unstoppable. I'm here with my husband who just said damn you to me, which wasn't very nice because I asked him to bring us in. Because I'm busy watching some really cute puppies having some fun. So he made me do it anyway.

SPEAKER_01 0:19

Y'all, don't she sound like she's a 1-900 operator?

SPEAKER_04 0:23

Absolutely not. I just do it getting around. That's why you sound. I do not. Sound so vixenated.

SPEAKER_01 0:31

I don't know. Sexy, sultry, dirty.

SPEAKER_04 0:34

That's what everybody used to say when I would dirty. No, I take at least a bath a day, if not a bath and a shower. But when I did dispatch for law enforcement, people always would like, I love hearing you in my ear.

SPEAKER_00 0:45

I was like, uh that's what they probably did.

SPEAKER_04 0:50

Thank you.

SPEAKER_02 0:50

If I was in your ear while you were on calls, oh wait, I was. Wouldn't that have you would have been like uh no?

SPEAKER_00 0:57

I probably would have been like, ooh. Wait, do that again? You know, when they said say it again, ufasa.

SPEAKER_04 1:05

You actually did the shake and everything. That's so funny. Uh well, happy uh, well, this'll go out afterwards. So happy, belated April Fools.

SPEAKER_01 1:15

Yeah, so far, my people have not played the pranks on each other. It's coming. Shocking, but it has not happened yet. And I think it's it's eight o'clock here at night.

SPEAKER_04 1:29

7 55.

SPEAKER_01 1:31

Eastern Standard Time. Technicality.

SPEAKER_04 1:33

Techner cal what?

SPEAKER_01 1:35

Yep, technicality.

Creepy Coffee Partnership And Creepy Con

SPEAKER_04 1:36

Technercality. So a couple things. Number one, we have partnered with creepy coffee. And they're amazing.

SPEAKER_01 1:49

They are like y'all heard of creepy coffee.

SPEAKER_04 1:52

Abby Dabby Doo had when we reached out and asked her, she's like, I know who they are. Like creepy coffee. And there's a thing called Creepy Con, which is huge, but it's gonna be in Arizona this October. Pretty appropriate, you know, being Halloween and all. And we're gonna be there. What? Yes, I can't do the minion thing. What? I used to be able to do that. Anyway, look at your daughter. Look at your daughter on the screen. You can't she can't hear you. It's not scratch and sniff. So we are going, and I I don't know how this happened. I'm gonna be a speaker at the event. What? I know why. Because I look like the Frankenstein.

SPEAKER_00 2:39

Negatively. Uh huh.

SPEAKER_04 2:41

I'm the, you know. Yes, that makes sense. I'm the creep keeper. So that would be why they want me to come on and be on the stage.

SPEAKER_01 2:48

So are you telling me that you're gonna go in some sports bra, show off all your scars? Is that why? I could. No. Would you let me? No. Would you want me to? No. Why? Someone's not gonna glorify my wife because she has battle wounds.

SPEAKER_04 3:02

It wouldn't be glorifying, but if everybody's going and you know it's a scary event, I could be scary. I could be scary. Why?

SPEAKER_01 3:12

You're not scary. I am redhead. Now in court, you're scary. Be careful. Okay. When you put on that lawyer suit, you're scary as hell.

SPEAKER_04 3:22

But I'm not a lawyer. I don't pretend to be one either. I'm not a lawyer.

SPEAKER_01 3:25

You just play one on TV.

SPEAKER_04 3:26

No. But I mean, I'm not a lawyer. I just am a very strong advocate. We true. But I am a very strong advocate. Why can't I go and express my warriorism of my scars?

SPEAKER_01 3:41

No. Why? I don't mind you showing them off, but someone's not going to exploit you like that ever again, there, Dick.

SPEAKER_04 3:50

Oh, now we're talking about Dick?

SPEAKER_01 3:51

Yes.

SPEAKER_04 3:52

Well, let's not jam it up.

SPEAKER_01 3:54

We won't.

SPEAKER_04 3:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 3:56

Yeah. Now I was not saying an inappropriate word there.

Family Drama And A Big Epiphany

SPEAKER_04 4:00

Careful.

SPEAKER_01 4:01

That's a nickname.

SPEAKER_04 4:03

It's a nickname. You know what I have come to the realization of, and and I know that you're hopelessly in love with me. I've known that for 25 years. But when I say this, if you don't have a revelation, I'm gonna be like, what? So I realized, you know, everybody comes to us and wants, wants, wants, wants, wants, right? And we just give, and we're talking about your parents who are divorced, and then my sperm and egg donor, which now you call yours that. So I realized why. And in the beginning, your egg donor, huh?

SPEAKER_00 4:40

In the beginning, God.

SPEAKER_04 4:42

Yeah, in the beginning, your egg donor freaking tried to be my best friend. Like, remember? Like a hundred times a day, she was calling me, not talking to you, asking me for money, asking for this, that, and the other, right?

SPEAKER_01 4:54

And what I remember the same thing happening with him, with your sperm donor.

SPEAKER_04 5:00

But he when I came but he didn't ask you for money. That man never asked anybody for money. Well, that's not true. It he took money from me in multiple, multiple ways. But he didn't flat out ask you for money. That one he didn't do.

SPEAKER_05 5:15

No.

SPEAKER_04 5:16

He did a lot of crappy things. Not that though. I mean, there's not many he didn't. But no, here's what I'm saying. I and then after the whole tobacco of her trying to take things from a domestic violence shelter for women and children, I come to realize why she doesn't like me.

SPEAKER_01 5:35

You're talking about my egg donor.

SPEAKER_04 5:38

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 5:39

My mum.

SPEAKER_04 5:40

Uh when did you call her that lately?

SPEAKER_01 5:43

I'd rather call her mum.

SPEAKER_04 5:44

Yeah. But no, really, listen, this is like a huge epiphany.

SPEAKER_01 5:49

Listen.

SPEAKER_04 5:50

The reason she doesn't like me is because I fixed what she broke. I fixed you.

SPEAKER_01 5:58

Do elaborate there, young one.

SPEAKER_04 6:00

Okay. Like with your sperm donor. He had a broken relationship with you for your whole life. Like you hadn't seen him since you were seven. And then he came in and out when it was convenient for him. And then he was like, Oh, I'm a piece of shit, father. Blah blah blah blah blah. Right? Well, same thing with your egg donor. But then when they realized how strong of an advocate I am and how much I fight for those that I love and protect, she realized that I fixed what was broken. You like I fixed the broken pieces. I put together a beautiful stained glass.

SPEAKER_01 6:39

Sure did.

SPEAKER_04 6:40

I've I built a beautiful stained glass window on the pieces that they broke. And that's why I am so irritating to her. Because I don't let her seep through those broken pieces anymore. And I you have woken up on your own without any influence from me because I've told you. No, because I've told you, if you want a relationship with them, that's on you. And you're like, eh, no, next. But you made that on your own. I never said, hey, you can't see them. I've never said that. But because of the fact that the pieces have been healed and you have healed from that traumatic trauma, that's why I irritate their demons. Huh. Just like you irritate my egg and sperm donors, demons, because you brought unconditional true love that they knew you always gave me from 25 years ago. But when you came back in the picture and you know, we were together this time permanently, that woke up and irritated their demons. So we broke each other's broken, we fixed each other's broken pieces, and that irritated the demons, uh the others.

SPEAKER_01 7:55

You are right.

SPEAKER_04 7:57

I love when you say that, but it's so often.

SPEAKER_01 8:00

It's so often.

SPEAKER_04 8:04

It's so often.

SPEAKER_01 8:07

So what what do you think runs through the narcissist's mind when uh it in in in the respect of the father figure being the narcissist?

SPEAKER_04 8:16

Well, moms can be narcissists too. We both have them.

SPEAKER_01 8:19

Okay. And and someone such as me comes along, takes away that leverage. That scapegoat. That yeah, that scapegoat. How do you think their their reaction is that that their child has never come back to them asking for help, asking for anything?

SPEAKER_04 8:39

Well, remember, in my case, I went over 10 years without speaking to them.

SPEAKER_05 8:43

Right.

SPEAKER_04 8:44

And that's when I first met you. Is I was in that period where I wasn't speaking to them. And I I think that they, well, that's why they tried to badmouth me to you. Just like yours tried to badmouth you to me. Like your sperm donor totally badmouth you and your egg donors totally badmouth you. And I think that's why is it because they want to feel like they have that control? Like, you know, we they don't anymore. Right, and they can't stand it. Like that is just putting glass in their, you know, Kool-Aid. They can't swallow that. They hate the fact that control has been taken from them. But the most dangerous person, once they have become awakened to the reality, is the scapegoat, is the black sheep, because we're the ones that hold the secrets, we're the ones that hold the truth, we're the ones who see the truth and hold the truth, but we're normally silenced. That's the thing. And most times we don't ever use our voice. We just stay silent because we're put on the spotlight for everything that the narcissist can't do right because they can't take accountability. They can't, they have absolutely no emotion. So they can never be empathetic or sympathetic, either one. They can't admit fault, they can't have any type of authentic apology. So they try to be like, like, I was blamed for shit when I didn't even live in Georgia. Like I was blamed for stuff I wasn't even here, right? And I was blamed for crap I wasn't even here for. When I was younger and I would be at my grandparents for the weekend, and I would unfortunately go back to them on Sunday night, I would be accused of something that like was missing or something that my brother might have done or misplaced or whatever, and I wasn't even there. And I was still accused because that's what they do, and they don't think they they pretty much have trained us at such a young age not to come up and you know try to authenticate the truth because it's a web of their lies, and that becomes the issue. So they don't want, you know, you to ever show who they really are, and they scare us into a submission where we don't want to talk about it because no one believes us. They make us out to be liars that we're these horrible people that can't be trusted. And you know, I remember your egg donor sitting down. Oh, she made me promise I'd never say this, but you know, she also promised my daughter she'd never do what she did.

SPEAKER_01 11:21

Don't break your word.

SPEAKER_04 11:23

Well, I wasn't gonna be specific in naming what dog food I have a video of her eating or dog treats. I I didn't break my word, and she just said I could never tell anybody she was eating blah blah blah.

SPEAKER_01 11:34

Okay.

When A Parent Plants Cheating Doubt

SPEAKER_04 11:34

But she was eating dog treats, and I have videos. However, we didn't feed it to her. She wanted to know what it tasted like. Anyway, so she was sitting there asking me one day, would I ever worry about you cheating on me again after or after everything that you had done to me? Like, you know, does a leopard really change its spots? How do I know with a hundred percent certainty that you would never stray again? That I can't, in the realm of my reality, imagine a parent asking somebody that when they know that they are unconditionally in love with the their child. That's like, I mean, I can't even watch some of that doubt. Right. I can't even put into a format like asking somebody who is dating faith, you know, would you ever be worried about XYZ? Like I can't even come into a situation or scenario where I would ask somebody, you know, are you in fear of this? Right? I couldn't do it. I can't even come up with the the scenario to to present it right now. But who does that? Like, and she just kept putting that in my mind. Do you you know, like, oh, like she would say when you weren't home from work at maybe he's over with his mistress, maybe he's still out, maybe he's you know, doing XYZ, you know, you do you really know? Do you know where he is? I mean, who would do that? Not even in an in a in a a ha ha manner, because it's not funny. It I mean, it's not funny, but who would do that?

SPEAKER_01 13:08

So let me clarify what my wife has brought up. Yes, back in the day I slept around on I must have stepped on a mouse. On both of my first and second wife, okay? Well, both both of my wife. You slept around on me! Well, you were one of the people that I was seeing.

SPEAKER_04 13:28

Wait, hold hold on, hold on, stop one of the people I was seeing. One, yes, you and I were in a relationship for four and a half years. Yes. Outside of one, number one, uh having first marriage, right? Having relations as in one night stands, bam, bam, thank you, ma'am, is not a relationship. It's a one-night stand, which I've never had. I don't even know like how that I'm just too much of a prude. But you and I were seeing each other for four and a half years, but you just stated one of the people that I was in a relationship with. How many other people were you in a relationship with? How? You wanted to see me every night of the week. Like I would say to you, aren't you gonna get sick of seeing me? And you're like, Nope. You wanted to see me seven nights a week. If you worked an extra job, you wanted me to sit there with you while you worked it. Like I was with you every single night.

SPEAKER_01 14:38

Well, I don't I don't know, I'm I'm not gloating about this, but I got really good at lying.

SPEAKER_04 14:43

And I had blinders on to no end with you because I didn't see any of it.

SPEAKER_01 14:48

I don't know what you call me other than a whore back then. You know, I was I was on duty uh as a cop, so I get paid.

SPEAKER_04 14:55

But we saw each other outside of you working too. Right. You spent the night with me. We went away together. How how do you I stayed in your apartment for like three nights in a row?

SPEAKER_01 15:08

What name for me is there? Then or now? I was a manipulator.

SPEAKER_04 15:13

You were a man whore then, but I didn't know it. I had no knowledge of it.

Can A Cheater Truly Change

SPEAKER_01 15:19

But my wife asked the question or the question was posed to my wife, can a leopard change his spots? Okay. I I'm gonna say yes, okay. Can a can a an alcoholic become sober? Yes.

SPEAKER_02 15:35

But do they fall off the wagon?

SPEAKER_01 15:37

There has to be a huge drive, a huge want. Something has to be more important than you know, another pair of titties, another, another another, you know, ding a ling. Something has to be more important than sex.

SPEAKER_02 15:52

Okay, but hold on, let me ask this.

SPEAKER_01 15:54

That whore, that, that, that gigolo, whatever you want to call me back then.

SPEAKER_02 15:58

But let me ask this because hold on, okay, and I appreciate your your openness about this. I really do. Because okay, hold on. So let me ask.

SPEAKER_04 16:10

I'm the same person now as I was when we dated 25 years ago.

SPEAKER_01 16:15

More sexy and gorgeous.

SPEAKER_04 16:16

He's just talking about my big fat ass. So I love your ass. Anyway, if I'm the same person I was then, why did you cheat on me then and not now?

SPEAKER_01 16:28

You are not the issue. It was me.

SPEAKER_03 16:31

But if you have someone, if you really truly love someone unconditionally, then you don't feel the need to cheat.

SPEAKER_04 16:38

Yeah, but you know, when I go back and think about it, it took you a long time to say those three words to me. But you never said I was in love with you. You just said I love you to me back then. And if you were in love with me, would you have still been a man who looking right now?

SPEAKER_01 17:04

I would say no. But back then I I might have said yes because I was still young, I still had influence, so to speak.

SPEAKER_03 17:13

Well, and see, I don't know.

SPEAKER_04 17:15

Because see, the thing is both your egg and sperm donor both were they were great examples of what I became. They both were loose. Yes. Is that fair to say?

unknown 17:28

Yes.

SPEAKER_04 17:29

That's fair to say. I was trying to be polite and I tad bit respectful. I don't know why, because that's not deserving. But like I grew up watching my sperm donor flirt with anything with a pulse, and he would check out other women in front of my egg donor. Like I would be sitting there and watch him break his neck. Faith used to laugh and go, Oh, this is him looking at women, and she could imitate him perfectly. I mean, it was hilarious. Like, she would say, What color were her eyes? You didn't get that far. Like, she would ask, right? And that's just it. Is what is the purpose? Like, I've never cheated on anyone, even my abusive monster. I never cheated. And I guess it was because of how I felt about myself. Like, I just didn't think that that was a respectful thing to anybody involved. But to me, as a partner and wife and mom, I look at it now that cheating is not just on my spouse, it's on my family. Because I'm I'm putting a huge crack in the foundation of my of my life, right? I'm I'm putting a foundational crack in my home. And that's what's so just ironic. It's like I just couldn't know. I just couldn't. So how many was the most you had at one time? Like, not like like in relate, not relations, relationships. Okay, wait. Before you answer that, define the term relationship so I know. Back then, sexual with nature, but no, you were having one night stands with people you didn't even know their name. That doesn't count. That's a relation, that's not relationships. So seeing someone on an ongoing basis will identify as a relationship. So how many at a time were you seeing while you were with me?

SPEAKER_01 19:28

It depends on what you mean by at a time, because someone came and went.

SPEAKER_04 19:34

Ongoing. Ongoing.

SPEAKER_01 19:37

Ongoing? I don't know. Anyway, three, five, seven, maybe.

SPEAKER_03 19:43

What? Three, five, and seven?

SPEAKER_01 19:47

Somewhere in that next of the woods.

SPEAKER_03 19:48

Constantly?

SPEAKER_01 19:50

For many years, yes.

SPEAKER_03 19:52

Was that ever just me?

SPEAKER_01 19:54

I don't recall.

SPEAKER_04 19:55

Don't please the fifth in my freaking courtroom. Are you kidding? Like, was it ever just me? And I guess number one, because I didn't know about her. The day I found out about number one, I exited our relationship and it cost me our child. Cause I miscarried.

SPEAKER_01 20:16

Y'all, I was uh yeah, y'all can think of me as a turd. I was, I was a an asshole cop. And, you know, I got around sowing my seed, and you know, I'm not proud of it. But, you know, out of all things, I did meet my wife right here, who's sitting beside me. She is the love of my life, my soulmate, and I will never cheat on her again. And in our five years of marriage, I have never cheated on her.

SPEAKER_04 20:45

Is that hard for you? Have you ever been tempted?

SPEAKER_01 20:48

No.

SPEAKER_04 20:49

Was there almost a hesitational blip there?

SPEAKER_01 20:52

I was gonna play on that word hard, but no.

SPEAKER_04 20:55

So when Faith makes a comment about somebody between the ages of 15 and 20 and says, hey, they could be yours, it technically could be. Hold on. Oh shit. And so I apologize in advance, and this may be a little, you know, notice.

SPEAKER_00 21:12

We're about to change this conversation.

SPEAKER_04 21:13

No, we're not. Hold on. There's only been two people in my life I've had unprotected sex with. And one of them was only consensual twice, and the rest was assault. However, you were the other one. And while you were gallivanting up every United Nations flagpole, you never wrapped the banana. Are you freaking hitting me right now?

SPEAKER_01 21:50

I know you this sounds just breathtaking. I I don't I only used a condom maybe, maybe three times in my life. When I was like 16.

SPEAKER_03 22:02

So how did you not 15 or 16?

SPEAKER_01 22:04

I don't remember.

SPEAKER_03 22:06

So how did you not worry about s knocking up somebody? You didn't care.

SPEAKER_01 22:14

That's kind of not on your mind at the moment.

SPEAKER_03 22:17

What would you have done if one of these came to you and said, Oh, I go with little baby need and then a little b- I can't even speak. I don't know how to speak it.

SPEAKER_04 22:25

And okay, let me say I'm not profiling and I am not being racial in any manner. My husband, I am his only white woman he's ever had. Let me put that out there right now. I do have ICE connections, so women don't think about trying. That was a joke. Kinda. Maybe, sorta. But you liked people who barely spoke English. You liked people who were of the Latino, Filipino, Asian, any kind of not Caucasian ethnicity. And most of the time you didn't get their name. How are you not worried? Oh my god. How are you not worried? A about STDs and B about pregnancy.

SPEAKER_01 23:18

That was the last thing in my mind.

SPEAKER_03 23:19

What would you have done if they all came up to you and said, yo, homie, I got a bun in the oven.

SPEAKER_01 23:24

Yo, homie.

SPEAKER_03 23:26

I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.

SPEAKER_04 23:28

Wait. Okay, answer that question. You started this.

SPEAKER_01 23:33

No, you started this. Yeah, huh?

SPEAKER_04 23:36

Anyway, what would you have said?

SPEAKER_01 23:38

I don't rightly know, ma'am. And you know the thing is that happened. I went tested over the years.

SPEAKER_04 23:48

I went every year to my OB, like a good girl, and was like, she would always say, Do we need to test you for this, this? And I'm like, oh, let's do routine blood work, blah, blah, blah. And I'm like, no, I'm intimate with my boyfriend, and it's committed, solely committed, intimate, just the two of us relationship. And little did I know that you were given more rides than Greyhound.

SPEAKER_01 24:12

Okay, can we pause here?

SPEAKER_04 24:14

Sure, giddy up.

SPEAKER_01 24:15

All right. So the whole contagious smile podcast listeners globally are laughing their ass off right now. Millions and millions. Right?

SPEAKER_04 24:25

And there better not be millions saying I did them too.

SPEAKER_01 24:29

Why don't you help me out just a little bit?

SPEAKER_04 24:31

I have. You're still here.

SPEAKER_01 24:35

They need to know that I'm not a scumbag right now.

SPEAKER_04 24:39

Okay, hold on. No. And you know, I think everybody knows that because I talk so openly about you. Like, and here's the thing, and and my husband will authenticate it. I could get faith in here, she'll authenticate it. After he broke my heart, I couldn't hate him. I couldn't. Even after we lost our daughter, I couldn't hate you. And you went to court with me, you stood by me, you were my call for help. And you even said to me, and I remember at verbatim when you told me, I know I needed you in my life, and I shouldn't have done it the way that I did. And I lied to you to have you in my life in the right capacity.

SPEAKER_01 25:11

And that was true.

SPEAKER_04 25:14

After that, anyone who attempted to try and see me, I compared them to you all the time. Like my best friend Kim who passed away, she would try to set me up on blind dates and she would laugh. She would actually warn people because I was really bad. A, I would get there first, hide my car around the corner, and make sure that I was sitting on the other side from where the bathroom was so that I could like 10-8 and jump out or leave quickly if I didn't like the person. And I didn't like them anyway, but I was appeasing her. And then she would tell people that she would try to set me up with, don't let her go to the bathroom. Then she got to the point where she was like, take her keys from her if she actually has to go to the bathroom. So I had an extra set of spare keys in my bag that I had gotten at Home Depot or whatever. And I don't even know why I had them. And one time at Bandcamp, she put me on a blind date. And no, it was not a blind date. It was somebody I had met through her at work, and she just asked me to go have dinner. And I said, I have to go to the bathroom, I'll be right back. And he said, Can I walk you to the bathroom? And I said, No. And he says, I was already warned about this. Can I have your keys? And I said, I'm sorry, what? Well, can I have your keys? Sure. So I took out my extra keys, put them on the table, got in the car, picked up my cell phone, said, I freaking hate you. Why? You owe me free fresh keys at Home Depot. You better go. She's like, Are you in the car? And I'm like, Yes. She's like, Not everybody's gonna be stucco. No, you know, and I was like, no. And everyone that anyone tried to introduce me to, I would compare to you. And that was always what it was. And even the very, very short period of time that sperm donor, you know, would even say, hey, he's single, you're single, whatever, whatever. I'm like, I know he's not stucco. And he told you that too. He himself actually admitted that I was like that. But my abusive monster hated you with nuclear capability. He was like, you hold him on this pedestal. And the thing is, is that there was no way, shape, form, or fashion that I would have reconciled with him if he was still a dirtbag. Because I would have stayed back with him then. And I didn't. I didn't. And I left. I was heartbroken. He's the only person who's ever made me miss work for a week, ever. I missed work for a week. I didn't get out of bed. I was so heartbroken. I was devastated. That and the miscarriage, I didn't want to go anywhere. I was just done. So no, I couldn't. And then now, like he's been such a stand-up guy. We've talked multiple, multiple times over all the years. You know, I had confrontation with wife number two. I think I did pretty good with her broken English. You know, she gets on the phone. I am going through Wekinside. I don't even know how to imitate her. With my husband. Stop calling my husband. Do understand what I can't do it. No understand what I'm saying to you. And I was like, listen, Toots. I remember I was sitting at my kitchen table. I was like, listen, Toots. And I'm looking around the corner for Faith, make sure she can't hear me. I'm like, let me make sure you understand this. I'm gonna say it as broken as I can. I had him first. I'll have him last. You're just babysitting. If I wanted him, he'd be here with me right now. Like the Hispanic women go on and can just round it like a mile a minute in their words, right?

unknown 28:53

I don't know.

SPEAKER_04 28:55

Like, and I'm like, what did she just say? What did she? I have no idea. But when my husband and I got back together, we were meeting at the airport. I was a nervous wreck. And I've never been like this ever. I was like, I'm gonna throw up. I don't do that. I was I went and got my hair done before I went to the airport. I was like a giddy little girl, right? I get to the airport. I must have gone to the bathroom like 15 times before you got off the plane because I was just like, he's gonna make me pee on myself, or I'm gonna throw up. Oh my god, I don't know what I'm doing. I can't deal with this, blah, blah, blah. When I first saw you as you tried to scare the dog crap out of me around the corner, it was literally like it was the day before. And it was just where it used to be, but better. Do you remember the first time you saw me again at the airport? Do you remember what your first thought was?

SPEAKER_01 29:55

I wanted to try to scare y'all.

SPEAKER_04 29:57

And then after that?

SPEAKER_01 29:59

That was uh faith was there again.

SPEAKER_04 30:02

Great. And then what was your first thought when you and I locked eyes again?

SPEAKER_01 30:06

I don't recall. Over five years ago.

SPEAKER_04 30:09

Are you kidding me? You can't even drop an ounce of sweetness, but you can dish out your sperm to everybody.

SPEAKER_01 30:15

Wait a minute, hoss. What let's let's recap.

SPEAKER_04 30:20

Okay. How many two pugs in a push did you give?

SPEAKER_01 30:23

No, that's not what we're recapping.

SPEAKER_04 30:25

Okay, go ahead.

SPEAKER_01 30:26

I can't wait. Go back to my soulmate has been there for me. He's he's my steadfastest.

SPEAKER_04 30:31

I've never said anything different. I said back then you were my soulmate.

Radical Honesty Before Getting Married

SPEAKER_01 30:35

Next. What did I do before we got married? I said we're gonna have a talk. Do you follow?

SPEAKER_04 30:42

Yes, and unfortunately, I have a great memory, and I'm a horrible liar, or I would just be like, I don't remember. How do you feel? How does this feel now? We both said things to each other that were we petrified one another to know. Like, I have a few things that I will never let the public know that are very humiliating and very like, you know, and when I told you I was like, he's gonna just go, he's not gonna stay, yada, yada, yada. I was beyond afraid. And you were like, that's it. And I'm like, what do you mean that's it? And like when you told me the same things, I was the same way. That's it. And you were like, it's not fair if I come up there and I'm not open with you. I think there's so much about me you don't know. And I was like, Okay, and I already knew most of it. I had already known most of it.

SPEAKER_01 31:28

So yeah, that's that's something I did. I confessed everything that I can remember.

SPEAKER_04 31:33

He tried to give me a heart attack, but it didn't work.

SPEAKER_01 31:38

I even protected you, but for me to come clean to my to my soon-to-be wife. You need to be clean a whole lot of other ways. Huge relief. Because till this day, till this very day, y'all. Y'all. If I if I had a black book, it would be in her hands right now. A black book? You need the freaking white pages. Wait, that wouldn't work for you because you didn't like them white. My cell phone, I can give her my cell phone for an entire month. Okay, she knows every password, everything, every website, everything.

SPEAKER_04 32:13

But what's really funny about this, and not in a ha ha way, is that so many women would be like, I'd be checking his phone and his whereabouts and that da-da-da-da-da-da all the time. He does. He says, Here, my phone's going off. Can you answer it? No. My text message going off, can you get it? No. You can check it. I don't wanna, you know, and the thing is, is that I went through a period of healing, in fairness, after my heart was shattered into a billion pieces by you, thanks.

SPEAKER_01 32:43

Where you're not welcome.

SPEAKER_04 32:46

Where trust was such a hard thing for me. It really was because the moon set for you. I even I gave up an opportunity to work on the opposite coast and an extremely high executive position. I give it up because I was dating you. I didn't want to lose you, and everything else that in between. And I even did my flying schedule back and forth when I would go out to the West Coast based on your work. So I would get on the red vague and come see you. Like I I did everything for this man because I knew in my heart he was my one. Like I knew within 30 seconds of seeing him, all I saw was his eyes. And I was like, I'm done. Like it was whatever. It was a moment, it was one of those, like, oh anyway. So I knew, but it was, it was just the I didn't want, and and from the moment we got back together, I never wanted to check your phone, even when your egg donor was like, How do you know where he is? You know, maybe he's not, maybe he's with somebody else. How do you know? Can you really trust him? And I'm like, wow, how do you say that? You know, I never did because I have this mentality that I don't want I lost enough time with you. I lost so much time with you. And I don't want any of those moments taken up with negative insecurity or or negative moments. I don't want any of that taken by insecurities. I don't want to be like, oh, that was my foot on my shoe. Sorry. I just don't want to take those moments where it's like, I gotta go check the phone because I don't know what he's doing, or you know, and then the paranoia and then the well, where is he? Or, oh, is that really an emergency he's going out on, or you know, anything like that and track him, or you know, whatever. I would I just I don't think you have that strong foundation when you have that trust issue. Like, and I've I've just had so much negativity in my life. I've been so unbelievably blessed with my grandparents and with faith. And I just don't want, I've had enough crap where I don't want to even worry about unnecessary shit anymore. You know, when you have literally been at death's door and you open it up and you're like, I am seconds from going on to that other side, and you're kept here for a reason, those little things don't really matter. And you know, as a side note, Faith has already warned him what she would do if he ever cheated again. She ain't playing.

SPEAKER_01 35:37

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 35:38

So I mean, how do you subconsciously deal with being a cheat? Like how? Is that why you called every single person hun? Is so you didn't mess up their names?

SPEAKER_01 35:49

It's a southern term of a dearment. Thank you very much.

SPEAKER_04 35:52

But it's not.

SPEAKER_01 35:53

Yes, it is.

SPEAKER_04 35:54

Oh, it's not.

SPEAKER_01 35:54

Well, it is my book.

SPEAKER_04 35:56

Is that how you did it? Don't you even is that how you did it so that you never called the person by the wrong name?

SPEAKER_01 36:02

No, it's just it's just it it's still different than say, oh, thanks there, sweetie. You don't mean it as a form of you know flattery or you're that's like saying I love you, but not meaning it. No, you're just saying, you know, you're just being nice, you're being jovial, you know.

SPEAKER_04 36:18

Like drop them, that's jovial.

SPEAKER_01 36:20

No, that's your cop talk coming out.

SPEAKER_04 36:22

Drop them and spread them. Oh, I see how this goes with you. That's not my nightstick. Easy greasy. Keep it PG. That was PG. Really? But in the end, y'all. Really? You're gonna go there?

SPEAKER_01 36:38

Yes, in the end.

SPEAKER_04 36:39

In the end, you did it too with the nightstick.

SPEAKER_01 36:41

Right?

SPEAKER_04 36:41

Now it's like the whole clue, Mrs. Peacock and the nightstick in the end. Okay, in the library.

SPEAKER_01 36:47

We're not talking about the Hershey Highway.

SPEAKER_04 36:49

That's disgusting.

SPEAKER_01 36:50

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 36:50

I just that's to each their own, just not mine.

SPEAKER_01 36:55

My wife has her soulmate. I won. The love of her life. I do. I have exactly what I needed and wanted, but I didn't realize it back then.

SPEAKER_04 37:08

So then let me put you on the hot seat for a minute.

SPEAKER_01 37:11

Yeah, we are living happily ever after.

Body Image Scars Weight Loss GLP 1

SPEAKER_04 37:15

So let me a let me ask you this for a moment. So when we dated back in the day, you were a little promiscuous. That doesn't fit with the word little in you in the sentence. Demanding.

SPEAKER_00 37:32

Whoa, demanding.

SPEAKER_04 37:33

You said there's some prerequisites for our relationship. And I thought you were kidding. He says to me, you can never cut your hair.

SPEAKER_01 37:43

So I was a narcissist. That's control. Right? If I gave you a little bit of a couple of things, hold on.

SPEAKER_04 37:52

Hold on, hold on, hold on. The last thing I need is to ever see you in that light. So I'm not gonna go down that path. Because I can't see you. I have blinders. So I can I can profile someone all day long and say they're a narcissist, they are not, they are, they're not. I'm not profiling you in that category.

SPEAKER_00 38:10

To you.

SPEAKER_04 38:11

So he tells me what?

SPEAKER_01 38:15

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 38:16

Uh a freaking whore.

SPEAKER_01 38:17

A whore? Whore. I was a paid whore. I slept around on my first wife, my second wife, and during my first wife, I met my current wife right now.

SPEAKER_04 38:29

That's a little confusing. Okay, hold on. Right. So you told me I can't cut my hair.

SPEAKER_05 38:34

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 38:34

You told me that I could not have a tattoo because you thought they were repulsive. Is that number three or number two? That's two.

SPEAKER_05 38:41

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 38:41

Number three was I couldn't gain any weight.

SPEAKER_05 38:45

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 38:46

Okay. Now, I don't want to profile you. Now, number one, I didn't cut my hair. Number two.

SPEAKER_01 38:53

Wait, wait. Number one, you had long It was down past my thighs. Fire, auburn, red, orange hair. Whatever. Yeah. Just it's just it's it's just smoking hot, gorgeous. Number two. No guy should want you to ever cut your hair looking like that.

SPEAKER_04 39:09

Number two.

SPEAKER_01 39:09

Number two.

SPEAKER_04 39:10

No tattoos. Like none. Whatever.

SPEAKER_01 39:13

You had a blemish-free body. It looked like a big thing.

SPEAKER_04 39:16

Okay, careful with that statement, blemish-free, because now I'm scarred to hell. So blemish. And I love you even more. Three, let me tell you how obsessed I was. And women don't ever do this again. And the reason I'm saying this to him, and he's gonna hear this like epiphany of a light switch in a second, he's gonna say, Wow, she really just did let me see and show how much I truly love her. So third was he was ah, third was he said, you can't gain any weight. So let me tell you how dumb and naive I was. I would only stay in the hotels when I traveled that had a gym so that I could work out. I was working out once, if not twice a day. He would call me up when I was in town, working in town, and say, Hey, let me get the roll call, come see me, blah, blah, blah. And I would. But I worked out first. And ever you were working out, you were just doing cardio, and it was all hump and dump. So no. So then uh everywhere I went, I took the stairs. Didn't matter where, I was always taking the stairs, I was always working out. I was obsessed. Like some people are obsessed with shoes, some people are obsessed with whatever. I was obsessed with working out, like because I wanted this rock hard body that you had was off the chart. And my husband, now boyfriend then, actually walked up to people and said, for five dollars, I will let you grab her buns of steel.

SPEAKER_01 40:48

And I was teaching you were amazing buns, y'all.

SPEAKER_04 40:51

I was teaching martial arts, I was teaching all sorts of things. I was doing I was helping at the academy, I was teaching at the academy, we were doing officer survival week, all sorts of things. I was lifting, I did all, I mean, I was very active. And he actually would try to have people come up. Now, one thing anyone knew me would automatically say was just shake her hand. You used to say that to everybody, just walk up and shake her hand, no matter what.

SPEAKER_01 41:17

Right.

SPEAKER_04 41:17

And I admit I have a very masculine handshake, right? With the one hand I have left. So I get that. But now here we are together now, and we have this huge wall downstairs, and we have made it the family wall where there are photographs from like 25 years, right? And one of the first pictures ever taken of my husband and I was back then with my long hair. I'm in a business suit, and and we're together side by side, and we kind of tried to reenact it, and we have the next one over there beside it. Now I don't look, I do when I don't look like I did back then. Because I never took any pain medication for any of my surgeries and any of the pain I went through, like even the amputation, that was god awful. I never took any pain meds, right?

SPEAKER_01 42:14

Correct.

SPEAKER_04 42:15

So I ate my pain, and boy did I. I ate and ate and ate and ate and and oh yeah, I ate. And my husband, I used to say, You promise never to lie to me again. You're running that trap under your nose. Because he was like, No, babe, you're not getting big. No, no, no, no, no, liar. Because I was like, I don't want pictures taken, we're not taking pictures of me. Do not put a camera near me. You need a wide angle lens, da-da-da. And I seen pictures at my heaviest, and I was like, holy cow, like, holy cow. Literally, I was like a cow, like no kidding. So I am happy to say that my first 35 pounds or whatever that I've lost, I did it naturally on my own. Are you clapping for me?

unknown 43:06

No.

SPEAKER_04 43:07

So I did about 35 pounds, th whatever, 30, 35 on my own.

SPEAKER_01 43:12

Congratulations, good.

SPEAKER_04 43:14

Now I openly admit I'm on GLP 1 and we're starting that process. And so total right now, I've lost 40 pounds.

SPEAKER_01 43:26

And I'm still with her, y'all.

SPEAKER_04 43:27

And here's the thing is anyone who knew me back then would never in a million years think I get heavy. Nobody, because I was obsessed with being in the gym. But when you have a surgery, let's say when I had my shoulder replacement, they're like, Oh, you can't do anything for a minimum of six months, right? And this was a long time ago. It was much, you know, different than now you can have heart surgery and be home by lunch. So they said, No, you can't do that. I was having surgery like every couple weeks, and I couldn't come out of postdoc. Fast enough before pre-op, so I could get back into the gym and work out like I used to. And taking care of faith was my number one priority as well. So, and then in the last five years, I've had surgeries constantly. I've not been able to, you know, to do what I want to do. And lately I have been much better and much more regimen about it. But my husband, the reason that we're going through this long berade of crap, is because my husband has still, even though he lied to my face and said, babe, you're still beautiful, even though you know you're the size of a small country.

SPEAKER_00 44:33

He he's lied to you.

SPEAKER_04 44:35

You told me I hadn't gotten big. Babe, 40 pounds is a toddler.

SPEAKER_01 44:40

Okay. Let me let me put let me put this in perspective.

SPEAKER_05 44:44

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 44:46

Your definition of big is different from mine.

SPEAKER_04 44:50

Explain.

SPEAKER_01 44:52

My wiener. Do you really want to go there? I just did. Okay. Only because.

SPEAKER_04 45:01

You have so full of shit. You have so full of shit. I had to go to the doctor after the first time we did because you split me.

SPEAKER_01 45:07

Okay, okay. That right there explains the difference between you say you're saying I'm lying to you?

SPEAKER_04 45:13

By saying that you're saying by saying this is not appropriate for the podcast talking about the brutt worst that you carry in between. You have a size 16 shoe and you have huge freaking hands. You must be a line. Yes, because you said I wasn't fat.

SPEAKER_01 45:30

I'm proving you wrong. You're not fat. You're not big. I I was. My definition of bigger fat changes.

SPEAKER_04 45:37

Okay. How does it change? Look how big your hand is. And I'm telling you right now, it goes from there to there.

SPEAKER_05 45:44

Shut up.

SPEAKER_04 45:46

See how quickly he changes this? I'm not editing any of this out. It is not a cocktail weenie. And I'm telling you right now, we're talking about the line part. Okay. But you have to admit I was heavier. No, I don't have to admit that. You do, because if not, you're withholding from me.

SPEAKER_01 46:03

No, I I'll let you have everything.

SPEAKER_04 46:05

That's not true.

SPEAKER_01 46:06

It is true.

SPEAKER_04 46:06

So how do you how do you put in your brain that I'm 40 pounds smaller than I was? Like how in your head.

SPEAKER_01 46:14

No, you won't tell me a number.

SPEAKER_04 46:16

The number is irrelevant. Okay, Mr. I'm 18 inches long. Don't tell me that you turn around. Don't say, don't turn around and say it's a number. Because the number is not relevant on the scale, right? Because if you say it's not about a number or it is about a number, well, your shoe is a 16. Is it about small, medium, large? No, it's not relevant either. So what is it? It's about the actual physicality of a person. Like, you know, okay, before you couldn't put your arms all the way, like completely, how do you define it? Okay, wrap around and touch each other, right? Like you could put your arms around me before, but you couldn't wrap them all the way around and have them touch hand to elbow on both sides.

SPEAKER_01 46:59

Okay, so if you're let's say, let's just say for shits and giggles, you're 250 pounds. Never did I get that big. Okay. If I see someone who's 450 pounds, they are larger than me.

SPEAKER_04 47:16

Look at Faith. I'm bigger than her, I'm bigger than her.

SPEAKER_01 47:21

Okay. She's bones. She's bones. She's getting healthy. She's getting very healthy. Y'all never talk about it about my daughter. She's getting very healthy. She's put back on the weight. She's eating like a damn horse. I I kid her at ribber all the time. And I say, where the hell are you putting all this? Because it'll be not two hours after dinner. She'll make another dinner.

SPEAKER_04 47:43

Well, you're the one with a third leg in your face. Are we are you still talking about that horse? Who brought that up? Oh, everyone, but that was a Latino.

SPEAKER_01 47:53

I think we're gonna end your show.

SPEAKER_04 47:57

I'm just saying. I'm saying I look at pictures where I look like I ate a puffer fish. Colony of puffer fishes.

SPEAKER_01 48:06

You still were not big to me.

SPEAKER_04 48:08

Okay, let's talk about other people in family without mentioning names. My egg donor. Big or small.

SPEAKER_01 48:15

Short and fat.

SPEAKER_04 48:16

Your egg donor. I know what she weighed. Would you say she was small or big?

SPEAKER_00 48:26

Yeah, big.

SPEAKER_04 48:27

Okay. Sister-in-law. Either. Which one? One's bigger than the other?

SPEAKER_01 48:36

Probably.

SPEAKER_04 48:40

Your sperm donor.

SPEAKER_01 48:43

My sport is got he was yeah, he was 330 pounds when he got here. He was up to 400 pounds.

SPEAKER_04 48:50

I think he said his biggest was like 415 or 420 or something like that. That's what I think is what he said. But like, you know, you have always had the sexiest legs. And sexy hands. But you have put on 70 pounds. You've put on so are you, cocktail wiener. So you are uh we're have gained 70 pounds since we got married, and you don't show it, except our friend Jeff, who tattooed you with your double chin. Yes? With your double chin. I have a tattoo of me embracing my face and I have my chin.

SPEAKER_01 49:28

And I have girly eyelashes.

SPEAKER_04 49:31

Well, you kind of do have a goblet.

SPEAKER_01 49:34

Yeah, but the eyelashes.

SPEAKER_04 49:35

But you have a goblet.

SPEAKER_01 49:37

I I can get over the goblet. Okay? I love the tom. The what? The tom. The tom turkey. Anyway.

SPEAKER_04 49:47

The tom turkey.

SPEAKER_01 49:50

So the point is I'm no longer a liar. Okay? No. You called me a liar.

SPEAKER_04 49:55

No, I did not. Yes, I did. Well, you were lying to 40 million people by sitting there and saying you have the size of a cocktail weenie that's wrapped up in like a Hebrew croissant or whatever. But I'm just saying that like now you said I was blemish-free, and now there's hardly any of me that's not covered in scars from either surgery or idiot. Like between the two, I'm a roadmap. Like that's basically what it is. I mean, my sperm donor said to you, take a Sharpie, go connect the dots, you'll be busy for days. I mean, that's screwed up. That is really screwed up.

SPEAKER_01 50:35

But and how do we look at it? What your scars tell a story? Yes. That you survived? Yes. And that makes you stronger, more beautiful.

SPEAKER_04 50:48

Would you have dated me if I was all scarred up like this back in the day? You would not.

SPEAKER_01 50:52

And tattoos.

SPEAKER_04 50:54

Oh bullshit. If y'all had tattoos back in the day, you would not have.

SPEAKER_01 50:59

Oh, they're they're I'm they look great on you. They're sexy. I I have three on me now.

SPEAKER_04 51:03

I'm trying to get them to get more. You saw somebody the other day and you're like, Would you ever have your hair that short? And I was like, I've had my hair that short. I've had to cut my hair that short before. And you're like, babe. I know, but how invigorating it was. And more people, believe it or not, told me that I looked sexier with short hair than long hair.

SPEAKER_01 51:22

Well, I don't care what other people think. You're my wife.

SPEAKER_04 51:25

Okay, but do you understand the savings and just shampoo and conditioner alone? Like the fact it took me three minutes. Let me.

SPEAKER_01 51:36

It took me get in the shower with you, woman. I promise I will wash your hair. But it's every night. Three minutes.

SPEAKER_04 51:42

I was like, ding ding. No, I'll spend ten. Done. You take a three-minute shower now.

SPEAKER_01 51:49

I've washed everything on me from three minutes.

SPEAKER_03 51:51

Oh, for the love. No.

SPEAKER_01 51:53

I did three and a half tonight. I washed my hair.

SPEAKER_04 51:55

I'm just saying that like it's so invigorating because you could just Well, let me experience that. To let me cut all my hair off?

SPEAKER_01 52:02

No, to let me wash your hair.

Daily Care Routines That Keep Love Alive

SPEAKER_04 52:04

I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about the fact that the hair was short, but I hate the one thing I hated is going and having it always cut to keep it from getting raggedy. Number one. I hate it. I love the shortness. But for me to go sit in a chair and have somebody cut my hair like every few weeks because my hair grows really, really fast really was challenging for me because I just couldn't stand it. And then when I decided to grow it back long again, that in-between stage, when you're going from, I mean, I didn't even have a pixie cut. It was straight, like what do you want to call it? Boot camp cut short. And when I was transitioning from boot camp hair to like long hair, and it was in that in-between where I looked like I was wearing a help football helmet, I just wanted to go back and cut it off. I was like, I'm done. I don't like it. I don't want it. Nope. Just get rid of it. And I had to work through that for months and months. And I just lived in hats because I hated it. I was like, this is just not me. Right. You know, and I remember the one of the very first times you and I started talking again, you asked me, is your hair long? Like that was one of the very first things you asked me. And I was like, not as it used to be, no. And I explained that I had surgery and they had to cut my hair, and you were like, How short is it? You know, that's what you you said. But you what you don't get is you still give me butterflies. Like you do. Like, I still get butterflies with you. I still fall in love with you over and over again.

SPEAKER_01 53:34

Did you name it specifically so I could do it often?

SPEAKER_04 53:38

Well, okay, let me just say no.

SPEAKER_01 53:40

I push your buttons.

SPEAKER_04 53:41

Oh my god, do you ever? But here's the thing like every night, it's the small things, and if you say it, I will absolutely no, you won't.

SPEAKER_01 53:49

Yes, I will.

SPEAKER_04 53:49

He goes every night, and I I'm one of these people that like take a shower in the morning and I take a bath to like decompress at the end of the day. You wanna know what I do in the morning?

SPEAKER_01 53:59

Sleep. No.

SPEAKER_03 54:01

Oh, here we go. He brings me two frozen ego waffles.

SPEAKER_04 54:05

Frozen ego waffles for breakfast and bed that he disintegrates into million like little tiny pieces because he breaks it up with his hands that he probably just wiped his ass with.

SPEAKER_05 54:16

Every day.

SPEAKER_04 54:16

And he just he takes them and tears them like he's shredding a piece of paper. For the last five plus years. It wasn't always waffles. It used to be those little hundred-calorie things.

SPEAKER_01 54:25

Yes, it did.

SPEAKER_04 54:26

And then he started to bring me frozen ego waffles that he would just like disintegrate into like a bunch of pieces and then put syrup on it. And surp. And then, but at night, he goes in there almost every night. Sometimes he forgets, but he goes in there because it's very hard for me to do the stopper in the in the tub because being one-handed and losing my balance because my equilibrium is messed up from all of the surgeries and having only one eardrum and stuff. So he goes in there every night and does that for me, and he puts a fresh towel out for me. And that is like something he just does now. And it's so sweet because he does, he does that. And it's really just from his heart, and I love it. And I still get butterflies with you. I do. I there I'm not gonna lie. There are times, well, I can't, but there are times I sit at the table when we're somewhere, or you know, we try to go out as a family and have dinner once a week if we can. And I sit there and I'm like, I just fell in love with him all over again for something so simple. And it's true. And I mean, have you ever had those moments? Don't lie, where you've just fallen in love with me all over again. I'm sure I have. But you can't name one.

SPEAKER_01 55:37

I can't. I remember, well, one time specifically. Okay. Where you said it to me. What? I I came out of the hallway and I said, You see that picture right there? I want to reenact that picture of your grandparents sleeping on each other, like like exactly how it was. They're sitting in a in a bench.

SPEAKER_04 56:04

They were in their home on their patio. She had fallen asleep on the little nigh or whatever you want to call it. He brought a blanket on her, and then he was watching her, and he sat on the edge, and he fell asleep watching her.

SPEAKER_01 56:17

His shoulder.

unknown 56:18

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 56:19

He's leaning his head on the show. It's very sweet and romantic. And I said, I want to recreate that and take a picture of us. And you said, I just fell in love with you all over again. Yes.

SPEAKER_04 56:31

But you don't recall ever falling in love with me again? Do not wrap the show.

SPEAKER_01 56:37

What? I I can't remember. I have a horrible memory, y'all. Okay. My wife remembers freaking everything. Okay? My daughter hears everything. She probably hears this conversation right now. And she's four rooms away. But I can't remember shit.

SPEAKER_02 56:53

So how do you know you're still in love with me?

SPEAKER_01 56:55

I'm very much in love with you.

SPEAKER_02 56:56

How do you know that?

SPEAKER_01 56:57

You have my heart right there. Look between the islands. It's right.

SPEAKER_04 57:02

The islands?

SPEAKER_01 57:03

You have islands.

SPEAKER_04 57:04

Not anymore. They're kind of like You have my heart one.

SPEAKER_01 57:11

Oh, I mean people just said, oh. And then some more he's adorable. He's an adorable reform.

SPEAKER_02 57:21

He's a reformed whore.

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SPEAKER_04 57:23

But he's so sweet. I had a I'm doing a lot more in-person and video interviews and things of that nature, a lot more. And I had someone, I'm gonna not say who, I had an interview, and the person was not very nice. I was interviewed by a man, that's all I'm gonna say. And comments were made that were very distasteful, I'll say that, about you know, oh, you've definitely been around the world. And because I'm older, because of what I've been through, comments were made about the abuse, just things like that. And and very out of character for me, I texted my husband on the down low and was like, I hate this. This is horrible. I I don't like how this guy's making me feel. Two minutes later, he is flying up the stairs, coming in the room. Hi, what's happening? I was like, Oh, there's my husband, and we are live. I didn't even get to put in there, we're live. Like, I didn't even get to add that part in before he had gotten up there to me. And so I was like, hey, you want to ask any questions? There he is, you know, and and I could tell, I mean, you were just like there, you know, and that's what I'm talking about is you need to have your other half. You need to have you, you have to have someone that you laugh with every single day. And we laugh all the time. It's not just on the show, we laugh all the time until we fart. Yes, especially you and Faith, because you two can and I blame the dog. He does, he does, he's like Rusty, Rusty didn't even do it. Now you have two others. And before we wrap up, I have to say, like, we have so much coming on here in the near future. We're gonna be, I have to get a list of everywhere we're gonna be because we got a bunch of things coming up in person. Like, we're flying out to Arizona. We have now become partners and with creepy coffee, which is amazing. They are amazing.

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Y'all go look them up and uh buy some stuff from and tell them we sent you. Yeah, page of smile.

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Creepy coffee. And then Friday, I get a Rom. His name is Amir. Hey, he'll he'll be a Rom to me. No, his name is Amir.

SPEAKER_01 59:39

Amir Mushbai.

SPEAKER_04 59:41

No, that's a Rom Mushtabai, FBI, who just had a birthday, and I got to tell him happy birthday. And he did a little birthday dance, which was awesome and hilarious and fun.

SPEAKER_01 59:52

How about he's funny?

SPEAKER_04 59:53

Uh he's hilarious. Look at all of the stuff he has sent us.

SPEAKER_01 59:57

He sent us a lot of videos.

SPEAKER_04 59:58

He is hilarious. And Eric Winter just sent me the little congratulatory message.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:05

What?

SPEAKER_04 1:00:06

I told you this, you were probably sleeping.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:08

What?

SPEAKER_04 1:00:08

Yeah. Okay, so Eric Winter. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:11

Tell me about Eric.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:12

Okay, so he messages you know often, and him and Faith have been talking about print and whatever. He also was on Days of Our Lives and a whole bunch of other stuff.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:23

Watch Days of the Lives back in the 80s.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:25

I think he was on back then. He was Sammy's brother. He's like 21 years old. He's been married to that beautiful. Oh, yeah. The one who was on Rush Hour.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:35

Oh, Lel C I mean, she's not my wife, so I'm not gonna say anything about her.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:41

You remember in Rush Hour? She was the one who was sitting there with Chris Tucker, and he comes up and and he was like, This is my yacht. And she goes, Oh, are you La Capatan? And she's breathtaking. She's gorgeous. His kids are gorgeous. Anyway so she's gorgeous, but they've been married a long time. They have three, three, four kids, I think. But yeah, no, he's in his 40s.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:08

He don't look that old.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:09

Well, he's got anyway. So he has been helping Faith with some ideas of pranks to do. So he sent multiple messages, and one of them was congratulating me on getting the very sweet, wonderful honor of top 30 most empowering of 2026. And he congratulated me for it and said that he loves reading about us because it's a story that's so impactful to him. I don't want to give his whole video away. But it was very, very sweet. And then he was like telling Faith about some very specific pranks that she could do by going and looking because he put examples of them up on TikTok and she could go look at those specific ones to get how to do it these pranks to you. And then, you know, he did some other stuff. I don't want to give the video away. Anyway, so yeah, so he sent the like the message and it was really awesome. And I'm gonna put that out here soon because that was awesome. But yeah, no, we're talking about Amir. Amir is coming on to co-host, and it's Christmas in April because he is such a caring, wonderful human being that I cannot say enough amazing, wonderful things about him. I think he is salt to the earth. I think he's like a phenomenal human. I do. And I'm not saying that just because he's coming on and not just because he was on one of my favorite TV shows ever, ever in production. It even if I had just met him and became friends with him, I would still say that he is cream of the crop. Like he is just a stellar, nice guy, which are so hard to find these days. And he is hilarious. Like hilarious. Like I, if somebody asked me my favorite Aramosh tobai moment in the blacklist, it actually is in season one. And I think it was the third episode where he was only coming on at that point as a guest, and they told him just to wing it. And he was sitting next to Raymond Reddington, James Spader, still waiting to talk to him. And he's sitting there, and James Spader says, I know how to disassemble this gun and put it back together in two minutes. And in that two minutes, you have to transfer five million dollars into this offshore bank account, blah blah blah blah. He goes in the specifics and all that. He goes, however, if you fail to complete this mission, I'm gonna unload this in your head. But only the first one will hurt because you'll already be dead and the rest will just be, you know. And Aram, Amir looks and goes, that's not very nice. Where? Like, here is Raymond just being like, you know, so stern and whatever. And then here's Amir, Aram, who just is like, Well, that's not very nice. And I was like, I'm gonna love this character. And he's he's the same on there as he is off. Like, he's just so we I'm so excited that we can tell. I know because I have like wanted to have him come on for years. Years. So Merry Christmas to me. So I'm very excited.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:33

Yeah, we were excited when he did several cameos to our daughter. She was going through a rough time.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:40

Why do you call them cameos?

SPEAKER_01 1:04:42

Well, short videos, whatever.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:45

I guess that makes sense. Yeah, no, he did when she was in the hospital.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:49

Very specific to our daughter.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:50

Oh yeah. Like, ain't no thing but a ticket wing. Oh yeah. Like, I love the very, very first one. The first one he ever sent was like seven minutes. And he was like, Mr. Raymond. It's like he's so serious.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:02

He was.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:02

I'm gonna put it back out so everybody can say, Mr. Raymond. No, what how do you word it? Mr. Reddington asked me to find these two blacklisters. Two? That's a little uncommon. Two? And he starts like you know, as you call it, handpicking, and then he's like, but they don't look like blacklusters. Wait, this one's one an Emmy? What? Wait, oh no, they just released they just released a contagion. What? And then he keeps looking, I mean he's phenomenal, and he's like, they released a contagion, contagious smile, and he was like, uh, and then he just says, and I found you. And it was like, oh, like, I bet I watched that a hundred times because he's so just hilarious and real and authentic, and just you know, a nice person. And so after other surgeries, he wrote her and checked on her, and then he wrote her one from his car, and he's like, Nope, I'm not driving. And then he showed us his dog in another. And what a cutie. And then also he had a surgery and he wrote and talked to us about it after, telling us how he did. And then it was just a humble, really nice. And I'm I mean, I don't want him to think I'm obsessed because I'm not, but like I just think he's a great person. And that is so hard to find these days. So I'm very excited that he's he is coming on.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:25

And that will be produced what Saturday or the following Monday.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:30

I don't know. Like, I think I'm gonna be so meticulous with that. I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:35

You'll have to at least wait a whole week.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:38

I might, I might hold it.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:40

I might hold it. Put it in reserve? Maybe. I don't know. We've already talked about him. You gotta get him out there. Plus, it'd be uh promotion for his Broadway.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:50

He's just always in something. Like he's doing a lot of directing right now.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:54

Good.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:54

Yeah. So if I ever had the opportunity to go see anything he did, I would jump all over it. Because I mean he's just great. Everybody who's ever worked with him said he's phenomenal. So yeah. And then we have the real housewives that want to come back.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:11

Marge.

SPEAKER_04 1:07:12

Marge! I had Marge Senior, she was hilarious. Like she was hilarious. And she actually read my book, Who Kicked First. And this is a firecracker. She's an older, well sophisticated woman. I don't know how old Marge Senior is. I want to say she's I know she's in her 70s, if not, yeah. I want to say she's she's gorgeous. But yeah, she survived abuse and she read it, and she was on there. And then her daughter reached out after hearing from her mom and sent me a beautiful message and wished me happy holidays and said she would come on. And I mean, we've had a lot of really great people. It's been fantastic, it really has.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:55

So for those of y'all who did not know, like I don't say it all the time. My wife is a published author of at least 54 books. Eight 58 books now. Okay.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:15

Why don't you give an overview of what that is?

SPEAKER_01 1:08:17

Some of the books are on Amazon. Y'all go pick them up. Look under Victoria Cure.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:22

And then the Echoes in Your Skull is so out of my element. And I showed the cover I created to my husband, and it was pretty wicked. It was not my norm.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:34

No.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:35

And it's about the truths, but it's done in poem style.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:39

And it's supposed to it's to me, it's it's a very dark and morbid side, but it's the perspective and reality, you know, that my wife saw went through. Well, faith is writing in it too. You know, other people probably look at it that that way too.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:56

But no, faith is writing in it. Yeah. But your wife what?

SPEAKER_01 1:09:00

You just have a such a beautiful wave of words.

SPEAKER_04 1:09:03

Well, it's the fact that, like, I hate hearing, and I don't use hate loosely. I hate hearing from people who have overcome this, that when I try to talk about it, like when I try to talk about it, my egg donors, I don't want to hear it. You know, I'm not gonna read your book. I don't care. I'm not even gonna look at it. You know, you chose to stay, blah, blah, blah, blah. If they could only see what it was like for even a minute, now these narcissistic pricks are not going to sit down and read the book or not sit down and and listen to you tell your story of survival, right? They're they're not going to. Anybody who you've survived is not gonna sit here and hear about their demons. But I want someone to be able to take a page of this book, rip it out, and just say, read this. It takes 60 seconds. Just read it, right? And it's it's in the process of being written as a person watching it as it actually physically transpires, like moment by moment, gruesome incident by event, detail by detail. So that somebody who, if you breathe, your heart has to beat, right? So you have to have a beating heart, whether it's cold and black and stone or whatever, there has to be a little blood flow in there at some point. And I want it to come across so at some point, someone who has caused this or not helped you through this in your healing and survival can look and even just be knocked off of their notch just a little bit. Like take them down a notch and go, Holy crap, is this what I do to people? Is this really what I'm doing on the other side? That's what I'm hoping that this book offers. And the cover is is really scary.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:54

So she just started this book, what, yesterday? There we go. Tomorrow. Tomorrow. No.

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No.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:02

Always awesome, but she does she does produce things very, very quickly. So y'all be on the lookout for that. Go to our website, uh contagious smile.com. Hop on over to victoriacuree.com. There's also our academy, uh, contagious smile.mn.

SPEAKER_04 1:11:19

Marynancy.co.co. Why so many people have a hard time pronouncing cure? I'm like, it's like puree with a C. Like, I I bet it gets mispronounced at least two or three times a day when I'm interviewing. I don't cure like core. I get core a lot. I get core a lot.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:43

I would say cur. That's because you're a redneck. Yes. Core.

SPEAKER_04 1:11:48

If it was a Latino last name, you could say it.

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SPEAKER_01 1:11:50

And that's all for tonight, y'all. Good night. And we'll see y'all again or hear from you. Adios.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:57

Hey, by the way, before you end, you need to. We had another person write, because I love our listeners, write out about how they love how we are.

SPEAKER_04 1:12:06

I don't know what you did with it, but I printed it out another note that we got from another listener that said they love how authentic we are, how funny we are, how jovial we are. And we can even talk about really seriously heavy things, but do it with such respect and genuality and just authenticity that they really love our show. And I printed it out because she even said your name. And so I don't want to hear squadoosh out of your face. Nobody likes to hear me. It's all you. Whatever. So you can take us out though.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:38

They love your 900 voice.

SPEAKER_04 1:12:40

Have a 900. They don't even have those anymore, do they? Do they have I figure you would know?

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Nope. Never called one of those.

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You didn't have to pay for it because you had it.

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Press right.

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Press one for English, two for Spanish.

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You're hilarious. You never got past three. Thank y'all for listening to Unstoppable here with Victoria and Michael.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:00

How do you say Victoria in Spanish?

SPEAKER_01 1:13:03

Victoria?

SPEAKER_03 1:13:04

No, you don't. Alexa, how do you say Victoria in Spanish?

SPEAKER_02 1:13:09

In Spanish.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:10

Victoria is pronounced the same way.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:15

Of course you knew that. Hello, Mr. Doctors.

SPEAKER_04 1:13:18

You're the one I of course you would know it.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:21

I just told you.

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Yeah, but that's shocking that you knew.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:25

Here we go, folks. Good night.