S5: E6: Ron Taylor (Lowside, Taylor-DeLatte, Lillian Axe, Stiff) - The High Notes of Lowside

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Tue, Sep 05, 2023 3:52PM • 1:07:25

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SPEAKERS

Ron Taylor, Randy Hulsey, Adam Gordon

Randy Hulsey  00:00

My guest on the show this evening is a longtime Your Texas rocker that is still out rockin after all these years. It's Randy Hulsey with backstage pass radio, and my guest today has played with such great hard rock acts as stiff and Lilian acts. He currently performs and an acoustic duo called Taylor Gilat. And also fronts, the Dallas bass band low side, get those horns up, and we will talk with Ron Taylor, when we come back.

Adam Gordon  00:27

This is backstage pass radio, the podcast that's designed for the music junkie with a thirst for musical knowledge. Hi, this is Adam Gordon. And I want to thank you all for joining us today. Make sure you like subscribe and turn the alerts on for this and all upcoming podcasts. And now here's your host of backstage pass radio, Randy Halsey.

Randy Hulsey  00:56

Well, welcome all the listeners around the world and I'm here with my man Ron, what's happening, brother? How you doing?

Ron Taylor  01:03

How's it go, Randy?

Randy Hulsey  01:04

It's great, man. Yeah, my pleasure, man. It's good to see you. So how's life up in Dallas these days? Man, it's

Ron Taylor  01:11

going great going great

Randy Hulsey  01:12

state. Well, that's inevitable. I think I think we're all getting old and we're all gonna get old. So there's no, there's no denying that fact. Right.

Ron Taylor  01:22

Let's still have it having a good time over here. Yeah. Well, I

Randy Hulsey  01:26

think that, you know, the talk around here in Houston is just the the weather has been so bloody hot. And gosh, I don't know how long we're going without any rainfall. And I've always said we either get flooded here or we have a drought like there's never a happy medium. What's it like up in the Dallas area, you guys pretty dry up there as well.

Ron Taylor  01:47

Dry and hottest could be man. She's my family just got back from 10 days in the south of France. Oh, really. And so that was not too shabby knife. It was it was still in the 90s but very dry. And we're about 20 minutes from the beach. So had a good breeze all the time, and cannot complain about the weather when they're very good.

Randy Hulsey  02:09

And you know, what's interesting is when you're someplace like that, it kind of takes your mind off that elements a little bit. You know, like you're focusing on other things right here. When you're just around the house. You're just moaning and bitching about, like,

Ron Taylor  02:24

Can we get some Rouge? We get some cooler weather? You know, we're

Randy Hulsey  02:27

never happy, right? But it's true. Well, I'm super stoked to have you here, man and nice chatting with you last night on the phone. And I look forward to hearing your hearing your story, man. I've been following you and your music. Well, we probably date ourselves a little bit. Right. But yeah, you've been doing your thing for quite some time now. Yeah, he's

Ron Taylor  02:47

talking decades. Yeah, for sure. For sure. By quicker and quicker these days.

Randy Hulsey  02:52

They really do, man. They don't seem to slow down. We'll tell the listeners a little bit about where you grew up. I know you're up in the Dallas area. But where are you a native Texan? Where did you grow up as a young,

Ron Taylor  03:02

I was actually born here in Dallas, raised in Garland, which is located in northeast, northeast, the Dallas area. And, man, our family, we grew up with music around my family. For as long as I can remember, my parents, best friends were in a country music band, like a country gospel band. And they were the they were actually the worship band at our little church. And anytime we got together with family and friends, there was music around us kids would always be singing, they would always promote us getting up saying and my mom says that for at four years old. I was up in church singing with that band. And that's where the Love came from. And you know, my mom and dad were were big country music fans before us kids were born they would go over to the Sportatorium here in Dallas, which not really anymore. They probably tore it down by now but it's it's known as being a big wrestling. That was event venue. And before that though, it was a music venue. And they go see George Jones if he showed up all the all the classic country artists. Yeah, it was was raised on that as well as the gospel music. Well, you're always saying him and my mom always sang with us always saying in the car and that's all I've ever known.

Randy Hulsey  04:25

Yeah, were they instrumentalists too, or just kind of just loved music and just singers and just in takers of music, but not really instrumentalists.

Ron Taylor  04:36

My mom would always sing to us, you know, but never really played anything. Yeah, well, sometimes. Personally, I never learned to play anything. And I really regret that now. But

Randy Hulsey  04:44

well, you've surrounded yourself with a lot of great musicians that really could play so sometimes. I mean, the vocals are an instrument right? And a lot of people don't have that ability to sing like you do. It's interesting because you're not the first guy that I've talked to that said, you know, growing up, we would get together with, with close friends in the neighborhood and family members and create these little singing groups. And we would always go perform for the adults when they were having like coffee and stuff like that. So that sounds like kind of your upbringing a little bit, you know, always, always performing always wanting to be in the limelight kind of thing. And

Ron Taylor  05:25

then I think seventh grade some of my best friends probably a little bit before that, you know, we started getting into kiss and Aerosmith and Matt and some my buddies bought guitars. And in seventh grade, they played in a talent show without me. And I was like, oh, man, I gotta get in on this for sure. For sure. Yeah. So I got a drum set. And I started playing drums along to that lab and I was the drummer. Okay. Very cool. And they made let me get up to sing. And that's when they realized this dude should probably be the same.

Randy Hulsey  06:01

Get rid of the drums. Ron, you're the singer now, right? That's right. That's really cool, man. And I wanted to go back quickly in so if we jump in the time machine and go back a little bit, to I think 90 Let's call it 1983 ish, I think was the first time that I heard Lilian x. And now correct me if I'm wrong stiff was before Lillian for you. Correct. You went to Lilian from stem. Okay, gotcha now and I think you joined Lillian sometime around

Ron Taylor  06:35

87 ish. 87 August of 87.

Randy Hulsey  06:39

Okay, how did the guys from Lilian find you. I think you guys were kind of doing the whole circuit thing and you were in stiff at the time. But talk to the listeners a little bit about how the relationship formed with with Stevie and the boys right?

Ron Taylor  06:51

Um, you know, all the reasonable bands were really doing the same thing. At that time you had stiff Lilian acts we savage. Got I can't even name

Randy Hulsey  07:02

wasn't Panthera in that for a while too. Right. Yeah, Terry was part

Ron Taylor  07:07

of that. And God who are all Houston bands down there that works. And

Randy Hulsey  07:14

it seems like there was an X when they're a band called mystic cross. Does that sound familiar? From back in the day?

Ron Taylor  07:21

I don't remember too many of the locals. But all you guys dropping in the hottest bands that were running through cardies and backstage and all that, you know, we were all trying to get that record deal, man, for sure. We were going out and we were playing. You know, I remember when I first started playing clubs and like 82 through through this time, you go out on a Tuesday night and start on a Tuesday and play through Saturday, play, play cover songs and try to stick your songs in there. And then you'll get to where more and more of us were spending our time trying to get out to LA and to showcase Yes. And this and that. And you know, Steph would go out there you do showcase you. You meet up with some people and we met up with the Aerosmith management and and Joe Perry at one point. You think Alright, this is it. Right now that's not then you get hooked up with somebody else, man, this is this got to be it. And all of those bands were I think we're telling that same story. Sure. You know, Lilian X was I want to say they did some stuff with with Cheap Trick. Now. That was Josie Jones.

Randy Hulsey  08:27

Joy was tied in with Ryan Joey was tied in with Rick Nielsen and Robin Zander from from cheap trick. Yeah.

Ron Taylor  08:35

And, and so at one point, Kleenex got to open some shows for rat and I believe poison. I think it was rat poison. Queensryche tour. And maybe one of the bands couldn't play or something. They got on I think three shows that can you tell him what's wrong? And and that was where breaths management? Marshall? burl. Yeah. So um, Robin Crosby saw him and, and started putting something together. And then next thing I know. And we I remember being we were in Houston when we heard Kelly and x is getting signed, they're getting signed with Ras management. You're like, oh, man, and I was always friends with Lillian singer. Johnny was the the only guy that I knew the other guys. But Johnny was the one that I that I would hang out with. We would when we would cross paths. And Steve called me I was up in in Michigan at John stars house is a man we got a record deal and our record company wants a new singer man and as I owe, you know, because we were doing our thing and yeah, you know, we thought we were close to making it ourselves. And so I thought about it and I'm like, Man, I can't I can't leave without John and and Rob those minutes were they were my best friends and we'd been working forever together and talk to those guys about it and and it seems like I might maybe be able to work something out where those guys could come along. And, and that's what ended up happening.

Randy Hulsey  10:06

Were did they did they have to move some people out to bring in Robin? Johnny? Did

Ron Taylor  10:10

they got rid of Johnny and Michael Michaels playing bass? I gotcha. And, you know, you just you hated that, that that had to happen that way, man, I still to this day just feel bad about that.

Randy Hulsey  10:22

Well, you know, it's a brotherhood and music and you hate to see that it's hard to see that. But, you know, at the end of the day, I guess it's business, you know, and it's, it's aligning the right people, whether it's musicians or or consulting firm, right, and, you know, you have to have the call it the right butts in the right seat. And you know, at the end of the day, it's all about the betterment of the group, hopefully. Right. So I'm guessing that's what happened. Right? Yeah. You know, so

Ron Taylor  10:54

at that point, we were you're wondering, is this is this the only opportunity we'll ever get to? We need to take it while it's while it presents itself?

Randy Hulsey  11:02

Yeah. Well, I think that you guys had signed on with what was MCA? Right? Was it not? Yeah, okay. Yeah. And then, for the listeners out there, Ron was talking about Robin Crosby. So Robin was the one of the guitars for the for the rock band rat, who had many big hits back in the 80s. Right was part of the whole Sunset Strip movements down there with Motley and warrant and all of the big hair bands that came out of LA back in the day, right.

Ron Taylor  11:31

Yeah. I mean, when you heard that read Spanish was signing up. And Robin Crosby wanted to produce you think you're on MCA and Irving A's off from from MCA sign and yet you're thinking wow, yeah, this could be it.

Randy Hulsey  11:45

Exactly. Well, I know in 84, I was in college in Lafayette, Louisiana. And that's when I stumbled across Lilian, who, you know, basically held from the New Orleans area, or the origins. And yeah, that's it, man. Went there a couple of times come? Don't tell my mom and dad, though. There was a lot of money spent at that place for sure. For sure. Well, I know that, you know, you had joined Lilian, and you guys had the love and war record come out. And I have to tell you that top to bottom, and that's probably one of my favorite albums of all times. And there's a couple of other guests that I've had on my show. One of them was La Rue from from Louisiana, right, big man, Louisiana. And I told him and I told Tony Hazleton that the so fired up record out of 83 was probably top the bottom another one of my favorites of all time. And then of course zebra out of out of New Orleans, right? Their debut record was phenomenal. So you guys are up there in my book. You guys are up there. That's a great record that you guys did a blast making

Ron Taylor  12:57

that one. We learned a lot on the first record working with Robin and then going into that going into the second one. We had a little bit more experience under our belt.

Randy Hulsey  13:05

Yeah, we use. You spent almost one Yeah, you've spent almost a decade and a half with Lillian didn't you? Like 1314 years? Something like that? A very long tenure. Yeah. Well, Ron, if you don't mind, I wanted to share just a very quick clip of a song called ghost of winter that was off of the love and war record. And we'll chat a little bit about that when we come back. Fair enough. Sounds good. All right, man standby. Super cool song, man. And again, congrats on a lot of those records back in the day that you guys worked on. Do you still enjoy hearing those songs after? What was it? My math is right. 35 ish years ago. I mean, do you still enjoy them? Or do you? Are you repulsed by him? Like some people are all over the map about that sometimes, like they don't want to hear their old songs.

Ron Taylor  14:33

Now for the most part, man, we're very proud of those songs. And we worked hard on them. We tried to perfect them. Maybe too much sometimes. But they've made it's worth something that when you listen back to it you you're like alright, that's that's what we were hoping we would get out of that

Randy Hulsey  14:51

you would know it best if things weren't quite right. But as the as the fan listener right from my seat, spot on, you know, But I know we're always our own worst critics, right? We can always we think we can do things a little bit better. And there's an old acronym as you're probably well aware of. And it's the kiss acronym right? Keep it simple, stupid. And we just over engineer sometimes and you don't have to do all of that, but you're always looking for the silver bullet, you know, the one. Right, so you overdo it sometimes. Well, we talked a little bit about your duo a little bit and Darrin played bass and Lillian. Pete right. And I think that he didn't come in and what was it? 91 ish, 92. Somewhere around 90 or 90. Okay.

Ron Taylor  15:38

Right, right between the MCA and the IRS deal. Okay. And how long is that? He was a band out of New Orleans called Hagen, pagan. Okay. Okay. I

Randy Hulsey  15:49

didn't realize that he was from from that neck of the woods, in Louisiana. Okay. All right. Well, that's what that's another thing I love about the show is I get educated as we go to right. And that's why I love having you guys on because a lot of time you can set the record straight for myself. And then some people that are followers of the different entities that you've been in over on those guys, they

Ron Taylor  16:11

played all around this, you know, all the same bars that we were playing, Lillian was playing and they had known the Lilian guys for years there and often tells the story of the first night that I sang with Lillian and Hagen opened up for us and they're going Who the hell is this new guy? I can't believe they got rid of it. I showed up and back then, you know, I'd wear glasses during the day and put my hair in a ponytail and wear Dallas Cowboy cap. And they're like, what is up with this dude? And, of course, that night transformed into let the hair go out there. And he heard me saying the first time he goes, Okay, I understand.

Randy Hulsey  16:51

I get it. Right.

Ron Taylor  16:54

I see what they did. Well, there's

Randy Hulsey  16:55

no more ponytails anymore, man. Now,

Ron Taylor  16:58

no more ponytails. I could if I want to ban the backs, but only where it's growing. Yeah. That's funny. Almost do I want to put my beard anymore?

Randy Hulsey  17:07

Yeah, it's funny how we, back in the 80s. I had long hair to put it in the ponytail and wore it around. And people that have known me just recently, or over the past 10 or 20 years are like, Man, I just can't I can't picture you look like that. Right? It's like, well, let me show you a picture. Here you go. Right. And I'm sure that you get a little of that sometimes, too. From Yeah, well, if we jumped into that, that same time machine and fast forwarded to present day. I mentioned earlier, you're doing the acoustic duo thing with Darren and you know, he was your band back and Lilian, but you guys are also in a project together called low side, correct.

Ron Taylor  17:51

We are we, you know, at the end of Lillian, we started doing the acoustic duo thing here around the Dallas area and started playing covers started writing songs started recording acoustic versions of songs. We thought maybe if we found the right guys, we might put a band together and we try to a few different situations that did not work out. And the same time we had a cover band called The days the AC E. That was, you know, just a rock, kind of a rock party cover band. We were going out and doing that as well. And they finally kind of got the low side thing going and took some of those songs we've been writing and started working on us and started playing, playing out in the Dallas area and came down to Houston and play played Freeport played, you know, a Sherman Denison area up here. About an hour outside of Dallas. And, man, we were having fun definitely I don't know if you've heard of the band Texas hippie coalition. I have not there has red dirt and metal red. Metal. Okay. All right, and really good. All right, and we've kind of jumped on with them. And we've had some ask some really good times, man. And finally around 2013 We finally got together and and recorded our debut CD. And that went really good. And we really had a blast putting all that together and it means a lot to us. And I said with the Lilia thing. Nice to be able to put something on like that. It's it's worked so hard on Absolutely. And be proud of it. Yeah. And

Randy Hulsey  19:34

it's interesting when you told me that, you know when you left Lilly and you kind of did the duo thing and you started doing a bunch of covers and I was gonna ask you about that like, because I know a lot of bands that write their own stuff, original musicians right there. They're kind of anti covers. They don't want to do them they want they want their own voice heard. They want their own stuff out there. Was that a hard transition for you too? Go back to covers. And the second I guess the second part of the question was, was it Steve that was writing a lot of the lyrics for Lillian, how much input did you have in the lyric writing process? For Lillian and I'm guessing that question maybe makes sense because if you're like this hardcore songwriter, they never seem to want to regress back to cover so I'm kind of curious where your head rather if you should kind of share that with the listeners.

Ron Taylor  20:30

Yes. I mean, man, some of the best times of my life have been in cover band really, it's something we've abandoned before stiff was called bittersweet and had a blast and you know, even even in Lilian acts we did no matter what, yeah, for bachelor girl song, my number, and, you know, everybody's playing covers these days,

Randy Hulsey  20:53

which was a great rendition of no matter what, by the way, I'll throw that out there. Yes.

20:57

So thank you. So

Ron Taylor  20:59

you know, I I love doing both Darren and I right now we got got to offer to go open for blue or Chicago. And so we played low side songs. We played songs that are just mine and his songs. Couple of Lilian songs. And a couple of covers same thing we opened for Eric Martin. Is that the singer for Mr. Big? Yeah, Mr. Big Mr. Big singer was doing a terrific thing. And so we'd love to do that. You know, that's another show that we'll do. And then we'll go out and we played this Friday night at a little pub, here in the Dallas area. And we love to play our songs or for sure, but most people, they most people in that environment. They just don't want to hear it. Yeah, want to hear songs they know. And we we actually talk about getting a big demographic. We can play songs that we love that you know, Allison chains, for example, will play out and change late but early you look around that room you see and man there's some people here that are older man, maybe

Randy Hulsey  22:01

some Jimmy Buffett

Ron Taylor  22:05

we do Marvin Gaye, go green and stuff like that, you know, so what sounds like love it. I love challenging myself as a vocalist, for sure. For sure. Seeing some of those. I mean, we do Tina Turner. We do. Gladys Knight and the Pips. Wow. Man, I love just love challenging myself to sing that kind of stuff. Yeah,

Randy Hulsey  22:25

for sure. And those are songs and artists that never get old. I think you would agree. So there's there's a place for both. I think, you know, you know, there's people that love Ron when he's doing the covers because it takes them back to a place and time so you're connecting like that. And then they're your current fans that really loved the original. So you're connecting with those people too, right? So it's, um, you know, you have to be diverse, you have to be relevant, you got to find that way to be relative as a musician, and I think a lot of people get so caught up in the blinders like it's gonna be, this is the way I'm going I'm only doing my stuff and if I only have one follower, then I only have one follower and you know, you you have to gain followers organically. And sometimes that means you might have to throw in some Van Morrison or something like that, you know, along the way to kind of build to get the train roll and I guess is what I'm trying to say.

Ron Taylor  23:22

Yeah, we feel bad sometimes. We have like a huge Lillian fan come out. Oh, man, I've been waiting to see you guys I'm from New York or wherever you know. And then like well when you can play some Lilian Yeah, we didn't really play we'll play one for you. How many mean just want to play Thank you gotta play no matter why Yeah, this you got to play that.

Randy Hulsey  23:47

Yeah. Well, and those are the those are the guys you gotta love to even though you're not doing that stuff, which is respectable. You gotta love that. Those were your diehards. Back in the day, man. Those were the ones that made you who you are. Right? So

Ron Taylor  24:01

very apologetic, man. I mean, it comes down to the right shows to the wrong venue.

Randy Hulsey  24:06

Sure. Well, how many shows are you in Darren playing together? What's the average number of shows a year that the duo was doing? If you were to guess I know you don't count on but

Ron Taylor  24:17

I would say five or six a month. Okay. So you keep getting to see what Saturday Yeah.

Randy Hulsey  24:25

And you guys mainly stay local up in the Greater Dallas area. Is there interest or any thoughts around like branching out to Houston or staying in Texas? You know, not too far from home but is there just too much going on to mess with travel or what?

Ron Taylor  24:43

We actually came down there and did the acoustic thing one night? I don't even remember where that was. And it was great because that was a night that you'd look around and most of those people were Lily and are they okay, and so we were that night we did get to kind of expand our her horizons I guess for our cover acoustic thing you can do Lilian and do low side and in bird for us that was great. We love like, alright, we get to do it all tonight. Yeah. So yeah, we would be interested in doing that not too much. Yeah. You know, of course my wife's family lives in Houston so she's not against going to Houston show.

Randy Hulsey  25:23

Gotta keep mama happy sometimes right? Happy where they say Happy wife happy, happy life or something. There's a there's a lot of truth to that adage, I would say, well, so we talked a little bit about low side. When did that band form and talk to the listeners about current members in the group. I want to make sure that everybody knows who the boys are. Right?

Ron Taylor  25:44

When we started out the first the first version of low side was in 2006. Okay, and so we were I was my last gig and laelia Here, let me look at my little spreadsheet. No worries. I had to put, we talked

Randy Hulsey  25:57

about this last night didn't like the infamous spreadsheet,

Ron Taylor  26:02

I had to make a spreadsheet of the timeline man, I don't remember nothing. The 2014 2006 is when low side first got together. And 2013 we put our CDL. And the latest version of low side is myself with Darren dilaton guitar, Christian Baird from Josie Jones Band on guitar and bobzilla on bass bobzilla was the bass player of damage plan. And he was in hell yeah, for short for short period. And then Sal torneo is our drummer and he was in a band called hammer which which was from Louisiana, okay, as well.

Randy Hulsey  26:45

That's interesting. I had reached out to before I even knew that you were paired up with with Bob Sela I had reached out to him probably maybe, maybe almost a year ago now and had some exchanges with him. And he said he would be interested to reach back out to him. And then the show really took off. And I might have reached out and the timing wasn't there. But I think that he was going to try to do a spot on the show. But it just it hasn't panned out yet. Right. But it's interesting. Fast forward about a year and you know, I'm talking to you and you're paired up with him and low side so what a small world he's been

Ron Taylor  27:23

in the been a few years now and man just a pleasure to work with pleasure to ride with man, the dude is so talented. Yeah. And, you know, we're just as a band, we really feel like we found our groove riding together and and playing it. It's all really feels like it's coming together. It feels really good. We you pre recorded a single got that release, call our song. We'll talk about that in a little bit. Yeah, we've got another one in the can already. And that'll probably come out the beginning of September. Okay, and we've got a few more that we're just going to kind of do the single thing for where you go, and hopefully get up to where we don't want to fool you will CD

Randy Hulsey  28:06

in that kind of funny how easy anymore? And I guess some people do? Well, yeah, we'll talk about the CD in a minute. But it's kind of interesting how the music business has changed. You remember, like, if you were to see this side of my studio, you would see a pretty nice little vinyl collection and your You remember, right, you and I are not too far apart in age. You remember when you would go and buy a record and it was a whole experience right now. It's just like, give me the one song band members, you know, the, you know, kind of like you guys did release a single release a single and all that. I think that whole thing started with the whole digital. You know, we just listened to music differently now than we did back in the day. And I remember buying my first vinyl when I started collecting. And I had been away from anything like that for so long. Yeah, I mean, the CDs, I have a ton of CDs, I just didn't stop listening to CDs. But man when I pulled that vinyl out of that jacket and pop that cover opened and started reading the liner notes with that thing playing everywhere. Dude, I'm telling you right now, it was a magical moment for me because I hadn't heard the hissing of a record player since I was a little boy man. And it was a cool experience. And it's like, I was always the liner notes guy like if I bought a low side record or a million or whatever. The first thing I did before I even listen to the music was read all of the liner notes. That's what I cared about. I was that junkie right? Who's saying who's that Ron guy? What record label are they on? When did they record where did they were that was that was this guy right here. And I love that whole experience but it's much different. Now as you well know what the Pandora is in the Spotify is and the Apple music which is cool, but it's different. It's definitely

Ron Taylor  29:59

diff You're definitely different man. You just to get immersed in it before man just

30:05

I don't know. Yeah, yeah.

Randy Hulsey  30:08

Well, I've never met Christian but I had another one of Josie Jones guitars on my show by the name of Antonio Brasil. Joey and Joey and Antonio were were both on my show and so it was great to have them and then I mentioned to you last night that Joey later co hosted an episode with me up in up in the Dallas area with when we interviewed Michael Lane Hildebrand so he played around with Randy St. John from Sweet savage and a band called Mind Body Soul I believe they were up in Dallas with Stacey Steele and yeah, so it's a small community man you know it you know it better than anybody you know all these guys right? I'm name dropping and you you know all these people so well I wanted them around for years. Yeah, for sure. Well, I wanted to play a short clip of the newly released single that we've talked about a little bit from low side this is a song called our song so we'll treat the listeners to that and then we'll come back and chat a little bit about tune sound good sounds good sounds good?

32:00

Can now

Randy Hulsey  32:27

that was the latest single release from low side called our song Ron gray song man really grew into managed Dig. Dig It should very much Yeah, sure. Some background on the tune with the listeners? How did it come about for you guys?

Ron Taylor  32:41

Well, man, Bob and Darren had started working on that, that little group together. And we started talking about the lyrics. We've got a friend here in the Dallas area from Garland actually that I went to school with him and his wife of the best pool parties ever. And we have the best food and the coolest man cave and setup you've ever seen. And, and man we love we love going over there. there and I have a hard rule we we don't really like to play private parties. But we'll play over over there. Okay. And so we love we all love to go over there. And he's got great playlists. And those playlists consists of a lot of songs that we grew up on and like you were saying the albums that you sent and just played in your room over and over and over and then all those people that are there that grew up with us and our friends. Most of them felt the same way about a lot of those songs. And as the night goes on, you're starting to have a good time and one of those songs comes on

33:48

just they're just like putting gasoline on

Ron Taylor  33:53

a fire and everybody's singing together. Oh, he's going yeah, just

Randy Hulsey  33:57

rocking back to that.

Ron Taylor  34:00

I know there's probably 1000 songs written about the same thing but for sure it's just it's just what hit us at the moment and it spoke to us and it's an ended up working out pretty good.

Randy Hulsey  34:14

That's awesome. Well it kind of when you get a good rockin tune from a band like that from low side

34:19

you know, you're like, Man,

Randy Hulsey  34:21

I need some more. I need some more. So you got you said you had something in the can I'll hold you back a little bit from talking about we'll talk about that in a minute but yeah, man it's it's a good driving tune and it kind of makes you just wait what's next man? I want the next one. Like what song to what song Three. So good job on is man for sure. Well, you guys, where did you record this? That was I'm assuming you that you stay local up in the Dallas area to record the single.

Ron Taylor  34:53

There's a place called Empire sound up here in Carrollton which is just a suburb of Dallas. All right and man this guy he's he's really good man we we really like working with this guy lot and

35:08

he's he's done a lot of really good work

Ron Taylor  35:11

with with artists from around here to do and I don't even know who all Yeah,

Randy Hulsey  35:16

if you got it you got it right some of those guys are magicians with getting it down. You know what I mean?

Ron Taylor  35:23

His name's Alex Gerst. Okay, he's good to look for love working with him Yeah.

Randy Hulsey  35:29

And par sound there for those up in Dallas that need a good place to record. Well, I know over the years you guys have shared the stage with national acts like LA guns and I guess faster pussycat was in there kings act. Were there any memorable moments from the came out of share in the stage with any of those bands? Do you remember any anything that just sticks out in your mind? I know a lot of the listeners when they hear this, you know, wow, you know, you play with this guy and that guy, you know that they look for those. What was memorable to you or did anything stick out in your mind from those times or from those shows? And,

Ron Taylor  36:07

you know, one of the coolest experiences that I had, I'm sure the other guys felt the same way was when Lita Ford and Ozzy were at the top of their game and that if I close my eyes for song was out. We got to go on a short run with Lita and the first night we played with her we walked in to her soundcheck and as we walked in from the back of the room, what actually was the floor? I guess it was the front of the room. We were coming in from the front of the of the venue. And she sees this. She's just yells up from the stage Lillian acts. What's up guys? Get over here and say hi to me, and just was absolutely so incredibly cool, awesome. And humble and crazy. And, man, we just we had a blast hanging out with her and she had Chris homes from Las Bosque and he was married to him at the time.

37:04

Correct. So he was out with her. And we had

Ron Taylor  37:11

played somewhere we went out after a show and they were with us one night and we're standing at the bar leave sitting next to me and this girl walks by, and Lita smacks her ass. And that girl turned around and slap the crap out of me man.

Randy Hulsey  37:29

You got the blame.

Ron Taylor  37:32

So we got to play with cheap trick a few times.

37:37

Our old stiff

Ron Taylor  37:39

I think it was Civ yes this old road manager who was now the road manager of cheap trade okay. And so we played a few shows with them we got so got to hang out with them a little bit what a great band we play with oh man Cheap Trick to go on forever any money outfield stray cats we we did a tour with except in the US which was really uncomfortable. Because little different music right? At that time they were they were putting out a record but they were on really doing much.

38:19

I think that was our

Ron Taylor  38:22

poetic justice record which was really kind of the peak of our of our career we were doing fairly well getting a lot of radio airplay and there were it ended up being a co headlining tour. So some nights we would headline to some nights they would headline

38:38

and they hated that.

Randy Hulsey  38:41

Oh yeah sure we hated it too.

Ron Taylor  38:44

We're going to get these guys are except Yeah, we should be we should be and the powers that be were like now you've answered on the radio here that it added and we wanted to be the their friends you know we will appreciate your your except man, let's hang out. Yeah, they wanted nothing to do with us. Wow. And the last night of the of the tour was at hammer jacks and Baltimore and hammer Jack's has a balcony that goes all the way around the stage. And we have bought cases of colored ping pong balls. And when they played balls to the wall, we dumped everyone involved. And it was a magical moment there were balls every people were throwing things all over jam in and it was just as cool as can be and they were so pissed off. They were just like, Alright, well we just we just lost this battle. So Wow. But that was our big, big except story. Got to open for Judas Priest in Houston. But Rob Halford was not the singer. Okay. Kind of doesn't count for me.

Randy Hulsey  39:57

There's only one singer for Judas Priest. Right that's got to be Rob

Ron Taylor  40:02

got open for Motorhead got to hang out with Lemmy. He was cool. This could be the other shows that we got to play.

40:08

Now that were you the big

Ron Taylor  40:12

outdoor festivals that I couldn't even tell you who we played with, and one was livestock in Florida, I think Tampa area. We flew in from, from Europe into New York. The crew medicine there. We were playing in New York that night. They flew us into Tampa, to us in a van pulled up to this big ass concert. We jumped out there and played in front of a lot of people big concert and got back in the van and took off then went back to New York and played WoW. And I just recently, I was looking at Busch life hooting, the blowfish, Tesla, the toadies Craig white buns and more were playing that day and you had no interaction with any of them. No, not not even the fans or nothing. Getting to play probably one of the coolest concert you've ever played. And it's just it's almost like it was a dream. Like did that even happen? We're here we were all jetlag from coming back from exactly. And then jump right back into it. flew into New York and played that night.

Randy Hulsey  41:28

Unbelievable. Well, you mentioned Lita Ford earlier and Chris Holmes. I don't know if you got to see his documentary on on. I think it's on Netflix. But man, what a wild man. He's a wild man for sure. You know, yeah. Interesting guy. interesting guy. And then I just had some conversations with Sherry curry today. And she'll be here in the studio Thursday. excellent singer of The Runaways right with Lita Ford and Joan Jett. So looking forward to chatting about what she has going on. From the duo perspective. Ron could the listeners you think could could they ever look forward to recorded original music from you guys? What critically Yeah,

Ron Taylor  42:15

you know, we've got tons that was recorded. And that man, we're just, we're such perfectionist. We just like if not good enough. Yeah. Versus Okay. Chorus kind of sucks, you know? But absolutely I've I've always joked with there and I'm, I would love to do kind of a, like a Kid Rock. You know, kid with Kid rice kind of country. soulful, Black Crowes just

42:44

kinda kind of thing.

Ron Taylor  42:48

Man I tell you what, you know, these days with with life just gets in the way man does not it gets in the way of us being be rock stars. Yeah. And in the same with low side, you know, I mean, we always joke you're like, Man, I wish I wish we could just you go to work during the day in the studio and just work all day and write and record and experiment and but like, not like that anymore, man. And just just getting the guys together to to rehearse, you know, is

43:18

it's a chore.

Randy Hulsey  43:21

I get it. And it's always been like that with just about everything in our lives. You know, you just the days just go past. And next thing you know, you look back, it's like, wow, a year just went by and I don't I didn't do this. And I didn't do this. And I didn't do this. And I've always said you know, you can't. There's no rewind button on life, man, you know, you're not going to be able to hit a rewind button and say, Oh, well, let's go do this again. Because you know, all the things physically that we wanted to do. If you hadn't done them before, you're our age, right? I mean, the body just stops wanting to do physical things, you know, like that we did when we were 20. Right? It's not that we're old. It's just like the body just says, Well, no, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna go jump on that trampoline anymore, because I might fall off and break my neck and I really see that roller coaster. Yeah, used to be fun. It used to be fun injury. I used to dive off 10 meter platforms in school. And you couldn't even get me to climb up on one of those things. Now it's the damn this thing. Like I'm petrified of heights. Now. I don't know what happens man. But you know, you can't look back. The point is you can't look back you got to do the things that you you want to do. And if that's record, some original or even cover stuff, you got to find time to do that stuff for people that are I think there's people that are interested in hearing it, you know,

Ron Taylor  44:41

that's what we've done with low side. I mean, we were we were trying so hard to get those songs perfect. And finally we just said, You know what, let's go record them. Plus, the things that may not be perfect for us may not be so bad. Yeah,

Randy Hulsey  44:58

I get it man. And you know, I'm in an acoustic duo to and Chris and I were just rehearsing some songs, a couple of new songs this past weekend. And I'm like, What do you think he's like? Yeah, they're, they're pretty good. I'm like, Okay, well, that's not what I wanted to hear. I'm not gonna go introduce these to the public. And I'm not trying to get a record deal. I'm not out for record, careless, that ship sailed a long time ago. But I'm a perfectionist. And I'm an OCD guy. I mean, you can look at the studio and see how the guitars are aligned on the wall that I'm not a sloppy guy, right. And I feel that way about my music, too. If I'm going to go sit on a stage in somebody's gonna spend their hour or two hours of their life listening to me, I want to deliver something that's worthy of hearing. Right. And so I get where you're coming from. I understand your sentiment there. What about any upcoming dates for notable shows for the duo that you can share with the listeners? I'm assuming that it's all kind of local up there in the Dallas area, but

Ron Taylor  46:01

just the local stuff? We don't really have anything. Open FreeNAS national acts. Right at this moment. Close. I just played Professor pussycat a couple nights ago. Not a couple nights ago, a couple weeks ago. Yes, sure. I've got a couple of things in the works for low scientists. That may be really cool. Yeah. And that's about it. And we're just working right and recording, rehearsing. What's in play and playing?

Randy Hulsey  46:28

Yeah. What's kind of the thought process around low side? What would be the ultimate? If you said, Ron, do anything you want with the band? What do you want to do with the band? Like what? What are the boys direction there? Do you want to be out on the road tour? And I know you guys are, some of you guys work full time. Some of you maybe don't like I know, there's restrictions. Some have family that bind you to not tour and but in the perfect world? What would low side look like as a band for

Ron Taylor  46:58

you? Touring sounds like an entry to me as well. You know, it's really hard to say,

47:03

at this point right now.

Ron Taylor  47:06

I wish we had more time to to write, record rehearse. And

47:13

that's what I love. And I love composing. I love

Ron Taylor  47:18

putting it all together and then hashing it all out and working and getting frustrated and stomping out of the room and then coming back and hugging and going. All right, let's work on this more. Exactly, you know. Yeah. And, you know, the thought of the dream of getting back on the road and doing all that again. Sounds good. I'm not sure.

47:43

How have really gotten new.

Ron Taylor  47:46

Most of my adult life was on the road. Yeah. Like so my family just went to France and I would just like international travel.

47:57

Like, and

Ron Taylor  48:01

so yeah, the grinds, man. Yeah. Yeah. But I guess to the right opportunity came along, you know, they're not we always joke, you know, the, what was that one movie, but it was chasing the sugar man or something like that, or the week after they found out that he had been humongous and like, Argentina, okay. Yeah, he was like living in a little house. Right. And never even knew it. That's right. Yeah. Like, we want to get that call and go. Hey, you guys. You guys just sold 20 million copies and Brazil.

Randy Hulsey  48:35

Would that be cool?

Ron Taylor  48:36

Where do we where do we send the chair?

Randy Hulsey  48:38

Exactly. Exactly. And, I mean, I think most artists on the show there's a common denominator on my show. I think the artists these days are just looking to get a frickin check man, because with all the social media, I mean, not the social media but the you know, the streaming, but they're not paying anything out there. I'll bet you that. You know, for however many streams you've had with with low side, you might have seen three pennies come out of that, right? There's just nothing man. It's just it's kind of a shame. You know, and I was talking to Tony carry from Rainbow on my show. I think he was on season three and I asked him about that. You know, being an old school rainbow guy back with Ronnie James Dio when Ronnie James was in, in rainbow. Still, how have you seen it change? He said, You know, we used to make a really good living selling records and now artists are like, t shirt salespeople. Everything's about the merch. That's how they're making their freakin money, man, buy a hat, buy a shirt buy a koozie because there's no money hit the music anymore. And it's it's a damn shame for the artists you know that they can't capitalize on that. Unless you get to be silly

Ron Taylor  49:52

even. Unfortunately, even back then, though, I mean, you had to really get to a certain level before you're going to make any money. The off your music anyway for sure record company kept half of it or most that one. Yeah, without a doubt. But yeah, definitely definitely tough man definitely tough. I can't imagine being a musician full time. I'm trying to kind of make a living doing it,

Randy Hulsey  50:16

it would be a feast or famine thing as you will know. Right. And, and I dabble in it to ban and I just always say, thank goodness, I had a nine to five to fall back on, right? Because I mean, because it would be that mean, it would be just that feast or famine. You know, where's my next check coming from? Man? My three shows this week cancelled like, now what? So? It's tough. But where can the listeners find the duo? Where can they find low side on social media?

50:48

Taylor's labs.com? Low side.net.

Ron Taylor  50:54

We're on Facebook and Instagram. I believe it's low side 747. Okay. And I'm not sure what is on Facebook for Taylor to lead. But where you could just look for Ron Taylor darynda Lad on Facebook. Okay. And track us down from there.

Randy Hulsey  51:10

I'm sure Google search will find you guys out there. When all else fails Google. I thought that it would be fun to hit you with a couple of quickfire questions. When I started the podcast. I did these a lot. And they were really fun. And then I got away from him for a long time. So you know, it'd be fun to ask Ron a few of these. So if you're up for that, I got like three or four questions to ask you there. Be fun. So are you a early bird or a night owl? Oh, Monroe hybrid.

Ron Taylor  51:37

Always been a night owl. But I'm getting to where I'm more of an early bird these days. Yeah. Well, I'm

Randy Hulsey  51:42

right there with you, man. And it's not uncommon for me to be sitting here doing something for my for my show that five o'clock on a Saturday morning. It's very normal. So I would say I'm that that early bird myself. What about TV?

Ron Taylor  51:56

I find it. Yeah, right. Up, I wake up and I'm like, I gotta go my man.

Randy Hulsey  52:05

Well, I mean, I can't just lay there like that. So I've got to get my brains out. Good. Once my brain starts turning in my eyes open. That's it. It's time to go. It's time to run. What about TV or radio? Your TV or radio guy?

52:18

Hmm. And not a whole lot of radio out there. You know, the typical radio that we're used to growing

Ron Taylor  52:29

up? Yeah. Love sports radio. Okay, so love the talk like that, but become less and less of a TV person. You know, over the last 10 years, probably. But I got my shows. I like I love Game of Thrones. So wouldn't that

Randy Hulsey  52:45

great? Yeah, for sure. I'm like you I just I think some of the TV just dumbed down. You know, you got to get away from that people just sit and binge watch stuff all the time. And it's everything's good in moderation, but I think I got rid of cable TV like three or four years ago and I don't I don't miss it. I have no time to sit in some channels of meaningless stuff you know and but I'm with you. You know there's that series here or there the Game of Thrones, The Sopranos, stuff like that, you know, you can get into or whatever. What about. If you had to call out a favorite genre of music? What would it be for Ron Taylor?

53:26

Ooh, these days it's it's bluesy. bluesy artists but

Ron Taylor  53:35

I'm really really picky. And I love Archangels do Abram Hall is one of my favorite singers and guitar players.

53:45

We actually get to play with Archangels at the

Ron Taylor  53:49

kalo l Houston. Austin. Wow. And like 99 Yeah, we were in the elevator with him going down. We had no idea who they were at the time, but now look back going. Oh, man,

54:00

how cool. But uh,

Ron Taylor  54:02

I love Black Crowes man black crows is a band that I love. I love them, but I didn't. We were so consumed with what we were doing at the same time they were coming out to that I've just never been pay attention to them never dug deep into the literature into their catalogue

54:20

and then went years thinking that they were too big of a

Ron Taylor  54:24

deal to bigger divas, you know. And then I just started digging into their catalogue and just fell in love with a man and finally finally got to see him for the first time this last year and got tickets to go see him here in November. Interesting. Again so

Randy Hulsey  54:44

while it's interesting that you say that because I've never I'd never dug into them either. You know, they had the big shake your money maker record out back in what was it the 80s I don't even remember I'm horrible with dates but you know twice as hard and all these big songs and cuz I saw them recently playing live on Howard Stern Show, and they sounded great. The audio quality on this YouTube video was great, but it was like, Wow, man, they sound really good. And Howard was asking the singer, have you guys re keyed the song over the years? Because you're, you know, you can't hit those high notes. He's like, No, man, I'm still singing. I'm still singing all the same stuff that I was singing back in the day. And I've asked, and as a vocalist, you would appreciate this because I've had I've asked quite a few vocalists that have been on the show, Johnny gol a from hard line and Graham bonnet from Rainbow over the years, have you lost vocal range as you age? Or do you feel like your vocal today is just as strong as it was?

55:53

From 87 Right.

Ron Taylor  55:56

Different songs are different for me. There's there's songs that we play that that I prefer to sing in the in the regular key and other ones that that we'll need to bump down a little bit. Okay, and so it's but man I'm I feel so blessed and so lucky that it is still there and still get up and sing the journey when I need to sing the journey. I don't know if I could sing a full Lilian accent anymore that did it saying I was a 20 something year old dude that was fired up.

Randy Hulsey  56:31

Wow. It sounded good. It sounded great back in the day,

56:35

and it still sounds great.

Randy Hulsey  56:37

You mentioned the kind of the bluesy stuff your your tastes has changed a little over the years. If you had a second favorite genre what would that be? Would it just be straight up rock and roll for you? Or do you

Ron Taylor  56:50

know James Taylor is my he's my absolute favorite artists ever of all time.

56:57

And singer songwriter? Yeah.

Ron Taylor  57:02

Yep. I love I love that kind of stuff. Love. One of my other favorite bands right now. For the last probably 10 years is Little Big Town. Oh, yeah. Okay. To me, they're kind of a modern day Fleetwood Mac type type band. And you know, I love Fleetwood Mac and those kinds of the harmony bands. Oh, sure. Sing all the Eagles Eagles Sure. You're the rock stuff. Oh, there's not a whole lot. Ultra bridge I love love love Myles Kennedy and, and Mark Tremonti and ultra bridge

57:39

What were you following? You

Randy Hulsey  57:40

know, you said you're a big James Taylor fan where you where you end all the singer songwriter stuff back in the day, the Gordon Lightfoot and Jim Croce like guys like that. Where are you going? Where are you doing those guys and even the tailors Well, we got a lot in common bro. Because we do a lot of that stuff.

Ron Taylor  58:01

Yeah, right. And all that stuff, you know, but we will turn that stuff around that will we'll get just kind of confused from come see us play will usually start out with that 70s songwriter stuff and then we move into the a lot of that r&b I was selling for sure. We got the Black Crowes and Kid Rock and they love it when by the end of the night the heavy people are wanting Metallica and Allison chains and Rob Zombie.

Randy Hulsey  58:28

And Lillian acts favorite vocalists of all time for you man who would you call favorite vocalists of all time being a vocalist yourself?

Ron Taylor  58:43

Always. Steve Tyler, probably the president of rock and roll right on three Steve Steve Tyler, Steve Perry. Steve was from Kansas. Three great bands all together. Yes. Oh, yeah. Yeah. But man, there's so many out there. So

Randy Hulsey  59:04

yeah, I grew I'd love Kansas all the leftover tour the those albums and vinyl confessions like I was a big Kansas fan prog rock kinda sound back in the day. Of course, all the ones you mentioned. You can't go wrong with any of those. Right? It's, it was it was the storyboard of our lives growing up back then, you know,

Ron Taylor  59:24

Bruce Dickinson for made three or four or five years he was he was my guy. James Taylor swans. I just don't miss him. If he comes. If he comes to town, I've never

Randy Hulsey  59:37

seen him. I've never seen him. I can't I can't say that I've ever had the pleasure of seeing him. I've seen a lot of, you know, specials and, and concerts and stuff, but nothing, nothing ever live. And he's just he does something with an acoustic guitar that I just can't seem to figure out you know. It's amazing. What he's doing. Yeah, he He's something else. Oh, yeah,

Ron Taylor  1:00:02

another one of my all time favorites, and that was like the Black Crowes. I was so afraid. The first time I saw him, I would be disappointed that he would let me down. And I walked into the going, Oh, okay. That's why he's Elton John. Sure. just blown away.

Randy Hulsey  1:00:18

I went and bought Elton John's greatest hits on vinyl the other day. And I came back from the record store. My wife Terry said, Well, what did what did you score today? And I said, Well, I scored Elton John's Greatest Hits. And she said, yeah, he had some good songs. And so I put the styles at two records set. And I put it on in about seven songs into it. She's like, did he ever write a bad song like because this, this guy had hit after hit after. There's very few people that just are like that hit after hit after hit. The Eagles were one of just, I mean, it's just number one. Number one, number one, number one, it's not even like number 10. Number 1423. They were like number one hit after number one hit. It was just amazing. Bernie Tov and and Elton John, how they could just write the shit out of a song, man. I don't.

Ron Taylor  1:01:11

They could especially I'll even go listen to obscure stuff that I've never really had before. And you're just going wow. Wow, that's even something

1:01:22

unbelievable.

Randy Hulsey  1:01:24

Well, what have we not covered wrong that we that you need a soapbox for? Did we miss anything, give you an open open forum here to share with the listeners anything that might be hot on your mind. Or we can chat about anything on your mind.

Ron Taylor  1:01:40

Man, that's about it, man, just pushing the rock up the mountain.

Randy Hulsey  1:01:46

Every day, every day. It's a grind.

Ron Taylor  1:01:49

Pushing the rock up the mountain and I'm trying to do good things, trying to take care of my kids take care of my wife. Try to get out there and entertain people and have fun doing it. And I just feel so blessed to be able to do it. One of the coolest experiences of my life has been to sing with my son in church. Oh, cool. And I went in. I always thought he could sing and then one day my wife and I heard something from his room and when kind of put our ear to the door and he was singing Panic at the Disco. Are you familiar with Sure? Yeah, sure. Dude can say blow. Really? Like where the heck did that come from kid I didn't teach him you know, sometimes you're

1:02:42

just born with that one like that, you know? You know,

Ron Taylor  1:02:46

we we love there's a guy. His name is Mike Farris. And Mike Farris was the singer for the screamin cheetah wheelies. Okay, I haven't heard of him. Never heard of them. I think they're from the New York area. And then he went through a bunch of had a bunch of drug problems and stuff and and became Christian and started putting out like old school kind of gospel bluesy kind of records. Sure. And it made I just fell in love with it. And both of my kids were kind of raised on that's kind of what was going on in the car on the way to school and then that at the time and so him Malawi, we ended up started singing in our our kids ministry at church, which was a very rocking kids ministry. Okay, yeah. And so we got to do that for oh, don't don't get me thinking of time anymore. 567 years. Man, that was one of the best times of my life and singing with

Randy Hulsey  1:03:49

Oh, yeah. You know, there's something really special about that. And my son Brandon, I don't know how old your son as my son, Brandon is 30 and phenomenal guitarist and we've played probably four shows together, but he's one of these kids that as good as he is on the guitar. There's just a panic of being in the limelight just doesn't just does not the comfort zone. Right. And so it was Come on, man. Just come on just one show. There's not gonna be a lot of you know, I'm selling a man you know, I'm a sales guy. At the end of the day. I'm selling Come on, there's just gonna be like two people there, dude, come on. And we had the best time and I wish you would get out and play more with me. I'm blessed to have Chris with me. And I've had Chris with me as a lead guitarist for a couple of years now and, and I hold the rhythms down and sing we both sing. But there's something special about playing with your kid man. You know, it's really cool. It's really cool. Well, Ron, Listen, man, it's been great catching up with you. You were always a favorite vocalist of mine and I wish you and the boys nothing but excess with the low side project. Duo. You guys, make sure you go out and follow Ron Darren and the whole band on their socials. And make sure to keep an eye on the website for shows and dates and band merchandise and all of that good stuff I think, correct me if I'm wrong, Ron, you guys have CDs for sell out on low side.net. Right. And I was going to ask you on the record here,

1:05:26

if

Randy Hulsey  1:05:28

I notice, when you go out to buy a CD, there's a note section where you can type a note in there. Is it possible to get the band to sign a CD? If they're bought? Will you guys do that? Okay, cool. It's great to know. So I'm going to support you guys. Backstage Pass will support you guys, I'll ask that you signed several copies of some CDs, and I like to give them out to listeners that support my show. So I'll support you guys in that way. And then I asked the listeners to go out and check these guys out and buy a CD. This is what this is what keeps the wheels rolling for for the bands to go in and make more content in the studio and whatnot. Check out that new single,

Ron Taylor  1:06:11

absolutely. And on Spotify and Apple and whatever. All of your choices out there, pile up on there. And on the low side.net on the World Wide Web.

Randy Hulsey  1:06:23

So yeah, and I asked you guys to also make sure you like share and subscribe to the podcast on Facebook and backstage pass radio podcast on Instagram at backstage pass radio, Twitter at backstage pass VC and on the website at backstage pass radio.com You guys remember to take care of yourselves and each other and we'll see you right back here on the next episode of backstage pass radio.

Adam Gordon  1:06:49

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